Itâs nice, but doesnât your shoe have an interior? :3 Or laces, or Velcro straps, or a zipper? No seams either? (Except at the front, I think.)
For the hatching, if youâre interested, thereâs this method that allows you to achieve a uniform result. It makes it possible to create something clear and harmonious (if you ever want to create an illustration with hatching all over, itâs useful ^^)
Are you going to test it with a character? :D I want to see what it looks like đ
No problem, feel free to ask lots of questions; Iâm here to answer them :D
The drying time depends on several factors: the ink itself (some inks dry very quickly, others donât), the type of paper youâre using (some absorb quickly, others donât), and the amount of ink youâve applied (a solid black area generally takes much longer to dry).
To check if your ink is dry, you have several options:
1. See if it still looks shiny (like paint). If it looks wet, then itâs definitely not dry.
2. Very carefully, you can touch the area with the tip of your finger to see if itâs dry or almost dry :) (this is a method I often use ^^)
3. Just wait. When youâve inked an area and you know youâll need to go over it again later, you can simply decide to do something else for an hour :)
I drew this at the same time as you. Iâm not sure if the proportions of the character are quite right. I had to redo the hands and feet several times to get something that wasnât too bad. In any case, I didnât think I would be able to create a drawing like this, even though I just copied you đ.
Oh yes, I was going to forget. I did the entire drawing in pencil and then added the inking (with Chinese ink markers), the hatching, and in the end, I erased the pencil... mistake! Even after it dried, the black areas and the cross-hatching started to tear the paper... well, maybe I used a gum that was too abrasive, or the paper was bad, or I pressed too hard with the pencil, lol...
So, if the paper tears, itâs probably because youâre erasing too aggressively or using paper thatâs too fragile. You shouldnât move the eraser back and forth, except for very small areas. Itâs better to always make the erasing motion in the same direction (like when doing hatching ^^). This will prevent disasters.
I think itâs pretty good. Youâre one of the few who pays attention to properly closing all the lines :D So, thereâs still some practice needed (which is normal), but I can see that youâve put in the effort ^^
Here are some areas for improvement:
> Pay attention to small overlaps (lines that slightly overlap each other, pointed shapes that end in double lines/thick patches).
> Hatching: For nice hatching, it must be regular, covering your shading area completely from end to end, with lines of the same length and the same spacing between them. Basically, regularity is key ^^ Donât hesitate to look at Naruto, for example; itâs the most obvious example that comes to mind. Observe how the shading is done; itâs simple but very clean and crisp.
> Learn to play with the thickness of the lines, so that some lines are thick in places and thin in others. Iâm thinking of the folds, for example, which are very prominent on the skirt (Iâm talking about the series of 2/3 parallel lines, which you should ideally avoid making parallel ^^).
> The shading: its position. Iâm particularly thinking of the dark strand of hair. If itâs in the shadow behind the head at the level of the ponytail, so with a shadow on the right, like the rest of her body, we shouldnât really see it on the right side.
Otherwise, yes, you have some minor disproportions here and there, but your drawing works well ^^ So, well done! :D
And donât worry, feet and hands are known to be particularly difficult parts of the body to draw. I still struggle with shoes regularly ^^
> Les ombrages : leur position. Je pense en particulier Ă la mĂšche de cheveux sombres. Si elle est dans l'ombre derriĂšre la tĂȘte au niveau de la queue de cheval donc avec une ombre Ă droite, comme tu le reste de son corps, on ne devrait pas vraiment la voir sur la partie droite.
Autrement, oui tu as des disproportions par-ci par-lĂ , mais ton dessin marche bien ^^ Donc bravo Ă toi :D
I looked at the original cover to compare, and itâs quite nice!
Regarding the inking itself, I think you need to practice your hatching. Specifically, youâve chosen several different methods to darken your character, using both solid areas and hatching.
I donât have any issues with the solid areas, except for those on the headdress. This is simply because you only use solid areas for the âblackâ color. This is logical, but for the headdress, you used it for the shadows, and this is the only place in the drawing where you did this, which makes it a bit jarring when compared to the rest of the drawing.
For the rest of your character, youâve used hatching to represent the shadows, and thatâs great ^^ It becomes a âcodeâ in your drawing, and this code should be consistent throughout.
Regarding the hatching, youâre encountering a few minor issues that make it look a bit âheavyâ in your drawing and make it harder to read.
2. Your hatching doesnât go all the way to the edges, leaving some empty spaces, which gives the impression that itâs not quite finished (again, I recommend looking at the hatching in Naruto).
I think that if you improve these two points, youâll gain a lot in terms of readability ^^ Donât hesitate to use solid, uniform black areas for the black sections. You can also look at the different methods used to handle black clothing or hair in manga; some use uniform solid areas, while others only use solid areas in the shadowed areas and use hatching or patterns in the highlighted areas. In short, itâs up to you to decide what you prefer :3
For the pure and simple inking, make sure to close your lines properly (you can leave them open in some places, but it should be a deliberate choice, not an oversight, as is the case at the bottom of the dress, for example). Itâs the small details that can completely change your work and make it look even cleaner. But in any case, well done, youâve chosen a very complicated style and youâve done a really good job! In particular, the underskirt and the headdress are very well done. đ
2. Tes hachures ne vont pas jusqu'aux bords, il y a du vide du coup ça donne un effet pas vraiment fini (encore une fois je te renvoie aux hachures dans Naruto)
Thank you for your feedback. I agree with it.
Regarding the hatching, Iâll take your comments into account. Iâve also seen the other comments on other posts about how to improve the rendering, but I have to admit that Iâm still struggling a bit with the hatching; it often gives me the impression of being âempty,â âunfinished,â or ârushedâ (Iâm speaking for myself; when I look at the results on your drawings, theyâre great).
However, I do acknowledge the need to focus on harmony and give my drawing âa style.â
As for the inking, I have to admit that I expected it to be darker, but it seems I lost some of the color when I erased it. I was working with a Pigma Micron brush pen. Iâll need to improve the finishing next time.
In any case, thank you for finding the cover of this manga to help me. I could have used it, but I suppose it wouldnât have been a good idea in terms of copyrightâŠ
I really like this author, and I think her drawings are beautiful and stunningly detailed.
By the way, I donât understand how they âindustrializeâ this, because a manga is about 200 pages long, and given the level of detail, I think it would take me a year to complete just one volume (assuming I already had the skills to more or less succeed in drawing it). How do the authors do it? Are they very, very talented, or do they use computers? Do they reuse sketches? I would be curious to learn more about this.
Yes, it sometimes happens with certain pens/markers that ink comes off after erasing. Donât hesitate to do your flat colors after erasing, rather than before, or to apply a second layer after erasing :)
You can post the link to the image; youâre not using it in a misleading way, so there are no issues with that ^^
To answer your question about the manga world, I will try to answer in a concise way.
Mangaka work in studios (meaning they have assistants who help them with all sorts of tasks). They have assistants to do the flat colors, the cross-hatching, some specialized in backgrounds, others who draw secondary characters, effects/onomatopoeia, etc. Most work traditionally (paper, pencil, ink), but some also use digital tools (especially for cross-hatching, which is practical). Traditional methods are practical because they tend to allow you to work faster, and itâs easier to pass the panels back and forth. This means that the mangaka generally does the storyboards and draws the main characters, and delegates everything else to their assistants to save time. They also do the colored panels, book covers, and special illustrations. When there are 4 or 5 people working on a chapter at the same time, things naturally go faster ^^ So, the mangaka does the storyboard. Then they brief their assistants on who will do what. They distribute the panels among them so that one does the backgrounds, another does the secondary characters, while the mangaka draws the main characters. Once they have finished their characters, they collect panels with backgrounds, the person who did the secondary characters passes them to the person doing the backgrounds, etc. Then the assistants come in to do the flat colors, cross-hatching, and effects, once the general inking is finished. The mangaka checks that everything is okay and makes adjustments as needed. They can then write the next part of the story if they donât have a writer, work on illustrations, or start the next chapter.
In Asian countries, they tend to have quite intense, even excessive, work schedules. A mangaka is expected to deliver a manga chapter per week (about 20/25 comic book panels). A bound volume has an average of 180 to 250 pages, which means that a complete volume is completed in about three months. This is an extremely demanding pace, to the point that burnout is common, health problems are also common, and many cannot continue after the age of 40. They also tend to die young due to the work pace. There are series that have been put on hold because of this, for example (Berserk or D Gray Man).
For example, Oda, who does One Piece, has said in interviews that he sleeps 3 hours a night so that he can finish his chapters on time. You can calculate the number of volumes, see how much time that adds up to, and figure out how long he has been sleeping so little.
If this interests you, there was a show at one point on Dailymotion that showed a bit of the life in a mangaka studio. It showed the different working methods of different artists, with their assistants, what their storyboards and final panels look like, etc.
Itâs called âUrasawa Naoki no Manbenâ; you can find the episodes on Dailymotion ^^ I think itâs subtitled in English.
Otherwise, you have the famous manga âBakumanâ by Takeshi Obata and Tsugumi Oba, which shows the behind-the-scenes (in a shonen manga style, of course ^^) and is very interesting for seeing the pace and organization of the mangakaâs work ^^
I really like your Sailor!
It reminds me of Sailor V.
The pose is detailed and dynamic, itâs really great :)
I like the flowing hair, the ribbon, and the skirt too ^^
These details add a lot of life to your character!
However, what bothers me is the fact that her torso isnât aligned with the lower part of her body.
This is because the upper body is almost facing forward, while, on the contrary, her hips and legs are Ÿ turned away.
Itâs as if you combined two poses into one.
I challenge you to redo this pose properly without twisting your hips ^^
Iâve given you some examples of poses that are similar to what you wanted to do.
If youâre motivated, feel free to use them as inspiration to modify your character :)
Iâve kept the initial positions of the torso or legs.
I understand what you were trying to do, and itâs not that simple, so itâs great that you gave it a try!
Otherwise, one last thing, you need to pay attention to the horizontal lines of your character.
Her right knee is too low compared to her left knee.
Apart from that, I have nothing to say! I canât wait to see her in new poses! :D
Coucou ssortini !
Jâaime beaucoup ta Sailor !
Elle me fait penser Ă Sailor V
The character design is impressive. As an important observation, I recommend that you review the proportion of the legs. In my opinion, they are a bit small compared to the entire body.
Salut !
Le design du personnage est génial. Comme observation importante, je te recommande de revoir la proportion des jambes. À mon avis, elles sont un peu petites par rapport à l'ensemble du corps.
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Itâs nice, but doesnât your shoe have an interior? :3 Or laces, or Velcro straps, or a zipper? No seams either? (Except at the front, I think.)
For the hatching, if youâre interested, thereâs this method that allows you to achieve a uniform result. It makes it possible to create something clear and harmonious (if you ever want to create an illustration with hatching all over, itâs useful ^^)
Are you going to test it with a character? :D I want to see what it looks like đ
C'est sympa mais elle n'a pas d'intérieur ta chaussure ? :3 Ni de lacets, ou de scratch, ou de zip ? Pas de couture non plus ? (à part à l'avant je crois)
Pour les hachures, si ça t'intĂ©resse, il y a cette mĂ©thode qui permet d'avoir un rendu uniforme. Ăa permet de faire quelque chose de clair et d'harmonieux (si jamais tu veux faire une illustration avec des hachures partout, c'est utile ^^)
Vas-tu tester avec un personnage ? :D Je veux voir ce que ça donne đ
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Didnât you copy the drawing that was provided? It was designed to be printed so you could ink directly onto it :)
Here, you redrew it directly, didnât you?
Your hatching is neat and clean, itâs a little shaky in places, youâll need to practice a bit, but itâs nice, I approve đ
Tu n'as pas recopiĂ© le dessin fourni ? Il Ă©tait conçu pour ĂȘtre imprimĂ© et que tu puisses encrer directement dessus :)
Ici, tu l'as redessiné directement de ton cÎté n'est-ce pas ?
Tes hachures sont propres et clean, ça tremblotte un peu partout, il faudra t'entrainer un peu, mais c'est joli, je valide đ
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No problem, feel free to ask lots of questions; Iâm here to answer them :D
The drying time depends on several factors: the ink itself (some inks dry very quickly, others donât), the type of paper youâre using (some absorb quickly, others donât), and the amount of ink youâve applied (a solid black area generally takes much longer to dry).
To check if your ink is dry, you have several options:
1. See if it still looks shiny (like paint). If it looks wet, then itâs definitely not dry.
2. Very carefully, you can touch the area with the tip of your finger to see if itâs dry or almost dry :) (this is a method I often use ^^)
3. Just wait. When youâve inked an area and you know youâll need to go over it again later, you can simply decide to do something else for an hour :)
Pas de soucis, pose pleins de questions, je suis là pour y répondre :D
La vitesse de sĂ©chage dĂ©pend de plusieurs choses : de l'encre en elle-mĂȘme, certaines sĂšchent trĂšs vite, d'autres non. Du papier que tu utilises (certains absorbent vite, d'autres non). Et de la quantitĂ© d'encre que tu as posĂ©e (un aplat de noir met en gĂ©nĂ©ral beaucoup plus de temps Ă sĂ©cher).
Pour savoir si ton encre est sÚche, tu as plusieurs possibilités :
1. Tu regardes si ça brille encore (comme avec de la peinture en fait), si ça a l'air humide, alors ce n'est pas sec du tout
2. TrÚs prudemment, tu peux toucher la zone du bout du doigts et voir si c'est sec ou pas loin ou pas :) (méthode que j'utilise fréquemment ^^)
3. Tu attends, quand tu as encré une zone et que tu sais que tu vas devoir repasser dessus pour continuer, tu peux simplement te dire que tu pars faire autre chose pendant une heure :)
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I drew this at the same time as you. Iâm not sure if the proportions of the character are quite right. I had to redo the hands and feet several times to get something that wasnât too bad. In any case, I didnât think I would be able to create a drawing like this, even though I just copied you đ.
Oh yes, I was going to forget. I did the entire drawing in pencil and then added the inking (with Chinese ink markers), the hatching, and in the end, I erased the pencil... mistake! Even after it dried, the black areas and the cross-hatching started to tear the paper... well, maybe I used a gum that was too abrasive, or the paper was bad, or I pressed too hard with the pencil, lol...
Thatâs it, thanks for your feedback.
J'ai rĂ©alisĂ© le dessin en mĂȘme temps que toi. Je ne suis pas certain que les proportions du personnage soient bien justes. Pour les mains et les pieds j'ai recommencĂ© un paquet de fois pour avoir un truc pas trop ratĂ©. En tout cas je pensais pas ĂȘtre capable de faire un dessin pareil mĂȘme si je n'ai fait que te copier ;-).
Ha oui, j'allais oublier. J'ai fait tout le dessin au crayon puis l'encrage (avec des feutres encre de chine), les hachures et Ă la fin j'ai gommĂ© le crayon... erreur! MĂȘme aprĂšs sĂ©chage sur l'aplat de noir et les hachures croisĂ©es la feuille a commencĂ© Ă se dĂ©chirer... bon j'ai peut ĂȘtre une gomme trop agressive ou un papier pourri ou un coup de crayon crayon trop appuyĂ© lol...
VoilĂ merci du retour.
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First of all, well done! :D
So, if the paper tears, itâs probably because youâre erasing too aggressively or using paper thatâs too fragile. You shouldnât move the eraser back and forth, except for very small areas. Itâs better to always make the erasing motion in the same direction (like when doing hatching ^^). This will prevent disasters.
I think itâs pretty good. Youâre one of the few who pays attention to properly closing all the lines :D So, thereâs still some practice needed (which is normal), but I can see that youâve put in the effort ^^
Here are some areas for improvement:
> Pay attention to small overlaps (lines that slightly overlap each other, pointed shapes that end in double lines/thick patches).
> Hatching: For nice hatching, it must be regular, covering your shading area completely from end to end, with lines of the same length and the same spacing between them. Basically, regularity is key ^^ Donât hesitate to look at Naruto, for example; itâs the most obvious example that comes to mind. Observe how the shading is done; itâs simple but very clean and crisp.
> Learn to play with the thickness of the lines, so that some lines are thick in places and thin in others. Iâm thinking of the folds, for example, which are very prominent on the skirt (Iâm talking about the series of 2/3 parallel lines, which you should ideally avoid making parallel ^^).
> The shading: its position. Iâm particularly thinking of the dark strand of hair. If itâs in the shadow behind the head at the level of the ponytail, so with a shadow on the right, like the rest of her body, we shouldnât really see it on the right side.
Otherwise, yes, you have some minor disproportions here and there, but your drawing works well ^^ So, well done! :D
And donât worry, feet and hands are known to be particularly difficult parts of the body to draw. I still struggle with shoes regularly ^^
DĂ©jĂ bravo Ă toi :D
Alors si la feuille se dĂ©chire c'est probablement que tu as gommĂ© de maniĂšre agressive ou un papier trop fragile en effet. On ne fait pas des va-et-vient avec la gomme, sauf sur de toutes petites zones, il vait mieux faire toujours un geste dans le mĂȘme sens (comme pour les hachures ^^), ça Ă©vite les catastrophes.
Je trouve que c'est pas mal. Tu es l'une des rares à avoir fait attention à bien fermer tous tes traits :D Alors il y a encore besoin d'entrainement (c'est normal), mais je vois bien que tu t'es appliqué ^^
Alors les points d'amélioration :
> attention aux petites pétouilles (les traits qui dépassent un petit peu les uns sur les autres, les formes en pointes qui se terminent en double trait / gros pùté)
> les hachures : pour de jolies hachures, elles doivent absolument ĂȘtre rĂ©guliĂšres, bien toucher ta zone d'ombrage de bout en bout, des traits de mĂȘme longueur avec le mĂȘme espacement entre eux. En gros, la rĂ©gularitĂ©, c'est la clĂ© ^^ N'hĂ©site pas Ă regarder Naruto par exemple, c'est l'exemple le plus parlant qui me vient Ă l'esprit. Observe comme sont fait les ombrages, ils sont simples mais trĂšs propres et nets.
> apprendre à jouer avec les valeurs de traits, pour avoir des traits épais par endroits et fins à d'autres. Je pense aux plis par exemple, qui sont trÚs trÚs présents sur la jupe (je parle des séries de 2/3 traits parallÚles qu'il faut d'ailleurs éviter de faire parallÚle dans l'idéal ^^)
> Les ombrages : leur position. Je pense en particulier Ă la mĂšche de cheveux sombres. Si elle est dans l'ombre derriĂšre la tĂȘte au niveau de la queue de cheval donc avec une ombre Ă droite, comme tu le reste de son corps, on ne devrait pas vraiment la voir sur la partie droite.
Autrement, oui tu as des disproportions par-ci par-lĂ , mais ton dessin marche bien ^^ Donc bravo Ă toi :D
Et rassure-toi, les pieds et les mains sont connus pour ĂȘtre des parties du corps particuliĂšrement compliquĂ©es Ă faire. Je galĂšre encore avec les chaussures rĂ©guliĂšrement ^^
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Reproduction of the cover of Kaoru Moriâs *Bride Stories* (without tracing, though!).
First character drawn with a pencil.
Reproduction de la couverture de Bride Stories de Kaoru Mori (sans calque quand mĂȘme!).
Premier personnage au crayon.
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This is really good :D
I looked at the original cover to compare, and itâs quite nice!
Regarding the inking itself, I think you need to practice your hatching. Specifically, youâve chosen several different methods to darken your character, using both solid areas and hatching.
I donât have any issues with the solid areas, except for those on the headdress. This is simply because you only use solid areas for the âblackâ color. This is logical, but for the headdress, you used it for the shadows, and this is the only place in the drawing where you did this, which makes it a bit jarring when compared to the rest of the drawing.
For the rest of your character, youâve used hatching to represent the shadows, and thatâs great ^^ It becomes a âcodeâ in your drawing, and this code should be consistent throughout.
Regarding the hatching, youâre encountering a few minor issues that make it look a bit âheavyâ in your drawing and make it harder to read.
1. The choice of hatching type. Youâve chosen a very detailed pattern with lots of small motifs everywhere. Therefore, adding cross-hatching on top adds even more detail and makes everything look cluttered. In your place, I would have chosen to use a single layer of hatching, oriented in one direction (like in Naruto, for example: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/HoPd7WydAl6jDxCTSKgsMywOgIXjHkwp7qzzXOhN0OIfmTKL-mo6OG3Gxqjevlc1lHqZy3xXtttlTeMwh4Bj_Drvp49JjDGfMrHZK-LKK0Y).
2. Your hatching doesnât go all the way to the edges, leaving some empty spaces, which gives the impression that itâs not quite finished (again, I recommend looking at the hatching in Naruto).
I think that if you improve these two points, youâll gain a lot in terms of readability ^^ Donât hesitate to use solid, uniform black areas for the black sections. You can also look at the different methods used to handle black clothing or hair in manga; some use uniform solid areas, while others only use solid areas in the shadowed areas and use hatching or patterns in the highlighted areas. In short, itâs up to you to decide what you prefer :3
For the pure and simple inking, make sure to close your lines properly (you can leave them open in some places, but it should be a deliberate choice, not an oversight, as is the case at the bottom of the dress, for example). Itâs the small details that can completely change your work and make it look even cleaner. But in any case, well done, youâve chosen a very complicated style and youâve done a really good job! In particular, the underskirt and the headdress are very well done. đ
C'est pas mal du tout :D
J'ai regardé la couverture originale pour comparer et c'est plutÎt chouette !
Concernant l'encrage à proprement parler, je pense qu'il va falloir t'entrainer sur les hachures. ConcrÚtement tu as choisi plusieurs méthodes différentes pour assombrir ton personnage, les aplats et les hachures.
Je n'ai pas de soucis avec les aplats, Ă l'exception de ceuc de la coiffe qu'elle porte. Pour la simple et bonne raison que tu n'utilises les aplats que pour la "couleur" noire. Ce qui est logique, mais pour la coiffe tu l'as utilisĂ©e pour les ombres et c'est le seul endroit du dessin oĂč tu as procĂ©dĂ© de la sorte, du coup c'est perturbant quand on compare au reste du dessin.
Sur le reste de ton personnage, tu as utilisé les hachures pour symboliser les ombres et c'est trÚs bien ^^ Ca devient un "code" graphique de ton dessin et ce code doit se retrouve partout.
Concernant les hachures, tu rencontres plusieurs petits soucis qui les rendent assez "lourdes" sur ton dessin et en brouillent la lecture.
1. le choix du type de hachures. Tu as choisi un modÚle trÚs détaillé, avec plein de petits motifs partout. Du coup, ajouter des hachures en croisillons par-dessus, ça ajoute encore du détail par-dessus et ça brouille tout. A ta place j'aurais choisi de faire une unique couche de hachures, orientées dans un seul sens (comme dans Naruto par exemple : https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/HoPd7WydAl6jDxCTSKgsMywOgIXjHkwp7qzzXOhN0OIfmTKL-mo6OG3Gxqjevlc1lHqZy3xXtttlTeMwh4Bj_Drvp49JjDGfMrHZK-LKK0Y)
2. Tes hachures ne vont pas jusqu'aux bords, il y a du vide du coup ça donne un effet pas vraiment fini (encore une fois je te renvoie aux hachures dans Naruto)
Je pense que si tu amĂ©liores ces deux points tu gagneras beaucoup en lisibilitĂ© ^^ N'hĂ©site pas Ă faire des aplats bien noir et uniformes pour les zones noires. Tu peux regarder lĂ aussi les diffĂ©rentes mĂ©thodes pour gĂ©rer les vĂȘtements ou cheveux noirs dans les mangas, certains font des aplats uniformes, d'autres font des aplats uniquement dans les zones Ă l'ombre et sur les zones Ă©clairĂ©es font soit des hachures, soit mettent des trames. Bref, Ă toi de voir oĂč va ta prĂ©fĂ©rence :3
Pour la partie encrage pure et dure, attention Ă bien fermer tes traits (tu peux les laisser ouverts par endroits, mais il faut que ce soit un choix volontaire, pas un oubli comme c'est le cas sur le bas de la robe par exemple). Ce sont sur les petits dĂ©tails que ton travail peut totalement changer et paraitre plus propre encore. Mais en tout cas, bravo, tu as choisi un modĂšle trĂšs compliquĂ© et tu t'en es vraiment bien sorti ! En particulier le jupon et la coiffe que je trouve trĂšs rĂ©ussis. đ
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Thank you for your feedback. I agree with it.
Regarding the hatching, Iâll take your comments into account. Iâve also seen the other comments on other posts about how to improve the rendering, but I have to admit that Iâm still struggling a bit with the hatching; it often gives me the impression of being âempty,â âunfinished,â or ârushedâ (Iâm speaking for myself; when I look at the results on your drawings, theyâre great).
However, I do acknowledge the need to focus on harmony and give my drawing âa style.â
As for the inking, I have to admit that I expected it to be darker, but it seems I lost some of the color when I erased it. I was working with a Pigma Micron brush pen. Iâll need to improve the finishing next time.
In any case, thank you for finding the cover of this manga to help me. I could have used it, but I suppose it wouldnât have been a good idea in terms of copyrightâŠ
I really like this author, and I think her drawings are beautiful and stunningly detailed.
By the way, I donât understand how they âindustrializeâ this, because a manga is about 200 pages long, and given the level of detail, I think it would take me a year to complete just one volume (assuming I already had the skills to more or less succeed in drawing it). How do the authors do it? Are they very, very talented, or do they use computers? Do they reuse sketches? I would be curious to learn more about this.
Thank you, and have a good week.
Merci pour tes remarques. Je suis d'accord avec elles.
Pour les hachures je prends note des commentaires. J'ai aussi vu les autres commentaires sur d'autres posts pour améliorer le rendu mais j'avoue que j'ai encore un peu de mal avec les hachures ça me donne souvent une impression de "vide", "d'inachevé" ou de "baclé" (je parle pour moi quand je vois le résultat sur tes dessins c'est top).
Je note cependant la nécessité de se concentrer sur une harmonie et de donner "un code" à mon dessin.
Pour ce qui est de l'encrage j'avoue que je m'attendais à ce que cela reste plus noir mais j'ai perdu une partie de la couleur en gommant il semblerait. J'avais travaillé avec un stylo "pinceau" pigma micron. Il faudra que j'améliore la finition la prochaine fois.
En tout cas je te remercie d'ĂȘtre aller chercher la couverture de ce manga pour m'aider. J'aurai pu la mettre mais je suppose que niveau copyright cela aurait Ă©tĂ© moyen...
J'aime beaucoup cette auteure en tout cas et je trouve ses dessins magnifiques et époustouflant de détails.
D'ailleurs je ne comprends pas comment on "industrialise" cela car un manga fait à peu prÚs 200 pages et vu le niveau de détail je pense qu'il me faudrait 1 an pour faire un seul tome (en admettant déjà avoir le niveau pour à peu prÚs réussir les dessins). Comment font les auteurs? Ils sont trÚs trÚs doués ou ils utilisent des ordinateurs? Il réutilisent des croquis? Je serai curieux d'en apprendre plus à ce sujet là .
Merci et bonne semaine.
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Yes, it sometimes happens with certain pens/markers that ink comes off after erasing. Donât hesitate to do your flat colors after erasing, rather than before, or to apply a second layer after erasing :)
You can post the link to the image; youâre not using it in a misleading way, so there are no issues with that ^^
To answer your question about the manga world, I will try to answer in a concise way.
Mangaka work in studios (meaning they have assistants who help them with all sorts of tasks). They have assistants to do the flat colors, the cross-hatching, some specialized in backgrounds, others who draw secondary characters, effects/onomatopoeia, etc. Most work traditionally (paper, pencil, ink), but some also use digital tools (especially for cross-hatching, which is practical). Traditional methods are practical because they tend to allow you to work faster, and itâs easier to pass the panels back and forth. This means that the mangaka generally does the storyboards and draws the main characters, and delegates everything else to their assistants to save time. They also do the colored panels, book covers, and special illustrations. When there are 4 or 5 people working on a chapter at the same time, things naturally go faster ^^ So, the mangaka does the storyboard. Then they brief their assistants on who will do what. They distribute the panels among them so that one does the backgrounds, another does the secondary characters, while the mangaka draws the main characters. Once they have finished their characters, they collect panels with backgrounds, the person who did the secondary characters passes them to the person doing the backgrounds, etc. Then the assistants come in to do the flat colors, cross-hatching, and effects, once the general inking is finished. The mangaka checks that everything is okay and makes adjustments as needed. They can then write the next part of the story if they donât have a writer, work on illustrations, or start the next chapter.
In Asian countries, they tend to have quite intense, even excessive, work schedules. A mangaka is expected to deliver a manga chapter per week (about 20/25 comic book panels). A bound volume has an average of 180 to 250 pages, which means that a complete volume is completed in about three months. This is an extremely demanding pace, to the point that burnout is common, health problems are also common, and many cannot continue after the age of 40. They also tend to die young due to the work pace. There are series that have been put on hold because of this, for example (Berserk or D Gray Man).
For example, Oda, who does One Piece, has said in interviews that he sleeps 3 hours a night so that he can finish his chapters on time. You can calculate the number of volumes, see how much time that adds up to, and figure out how long he has been sleeping so little.
If this interests you, there was a show at one point on Dailymotion that showed a bit of the life in a mangaka studio. It showed the different working methods of different artists, with their assistants, what their storyboards and final panels look like, etc.
Itâs called âUrasawa Naoki no Manbenâ; you can find the episodes on Dailymotion ^^ I think itâs subtitled in English.
Otherwise, you have the famous manga âBakumanâ by Takeshi Obata and Tsugumi Oba, which shows the behind-the-scenes (in a shonen manga style, of course ^^) and is very interesting for seeing the pace and organization of the mangakaâs work ^^
Have a good week o/
Oui ça arrive parfois avec certains stylos / feutres que de l'encre parte aprÚs gommage, n'hésite pas à faire tes aplats aprÚs avoir gommé plutÎt qu'avant, ou bien à repasser une seconde couche aprÚs gommage :)
Tu peux mettre le lien vers l'image, tu ne l'utilises pas de maniĂšre fallacieuse, donc pas de soucis Ă ce niveau-lĂ ^^
Pour répondre à ta question concernant l'univers du manga je vais essayer de répondre de maniÚre un peu concise.
Les mangakas travaillent en studio (c'est-Ă -dire qu'ils ont des assistants qui les aident pour tout un tas de tĂąches). Ils ont des assistants pour faire les aplats, le tramage, certains spĂ©cialisĂ©s dans les dĂ©cors, dâautres qui dessinent les personnages secondaires, les effets / onomatopĂ©es, etc. La plupart bossent en traditionnel (papier, crayon, encre), mais certains utilisent aussi le digital (pour le tramage entre autre, c'est pratique). Le traditionnel est pratique car on a tendance Ă travailler plus vite dessus et c'est plus simple de se passer les planches les uns les autres. Ce qui fait que le mangaka fait en gĂ©nĂ©ral les storyboards, et dessine les persos principaux et dĂ©lĂšgue tout le reste Ă ses assistants pour gagner du temps. Il fait aussi les planches en couleur / les couvertures de tomes / les illustrations spĂ©ciales. Quand on est Ă 4 ou 5 pour bosser sur un chapitre tous en mĂȘme temps, on va forcĂ©ment plus vite ^^ Du coup, le mangaka fait le storyboard. Ensuite il briefe ses assistants sur qui va faire quoi. Il rĂ©partit les planches entre eux de maniĂšre Ă ce qu'un fasse les dĂ©cors, un autre fasse les persos secondaires, pendant que lui fait les persos principaux au propre. Une fois qu'il a fini ses persos, il rĂ©cupĂšre des planches avec du dĂ©cor, celui qui avait fait les persos secondaires transmet Ă celui des dĂ©cors, etc. Puis viennent les assistants pour les aplats, les trames et les FX qui passent une fois l'encrage gĂ©nĂ©ral terminĂ©. Le mangaka vĂ©rifie que tout va bien et fait des retouches au besoin. Il peut ensuite Ă©crire la suite du scĂ©nario de son histoire s'il n'a pas de scĂ©nariste, bosser sur des illus ou commencer Ă faire le chapitre suivant.
Dans les pays asiatiques, ils ont tendance Ă avoir des rythmes de travail assez intenses, voire trop. Un mangaka est supposĂ© rendre un chapitre de manga par semaine (soit 20/25 planches de BD environ). Un tome reliĂ© fait entre 180 et 250 pages en moyenne, ce qui fait qu'un tome complet se fait en trois mois Ă peu prĂšs. C'est un rythme extrĂȘmement soutenu, Ă tel point que les burn-out sont frĂ©quents, les problĂšmes de santĂ© aussi et que beaucoup ne peuvent plus suivre passĂ© 40 ans. Ils ont tendance Ă mourir jeunes aussi du fait du rythme de travail. Il y a des sĂ©ries en arrĂȘt Ă cause de ça par exemple (Berserk ou D Gray Man par exemple).
Par exemple, Oda, qui fait One Piece a déjà dit dans des interview qu'il dormait 3h par nuit pour pouvoir terminer ses chapitres dans les temps. Tu peux compter le nombre de tomes, voir combien de temps ça fait en tout et savoir depuis combien de temps il dort si peu.
Si ça t'intrigue, tu as une émission qui montrait un peu la vie dans un studio de mangakas à un moment sur dailymotion, on voyait les différentes méthodes de travail de différents artistes, avec leurs assistants, à quoi ressemblent leurs storyboards, leurs planches finales, etc.
Ăa s'appelle : "Urasawa Naoki no Manben", tu trouveras les Ă©pisodes sur dailymotion ^^ Il me semble que c'est sous-titrĂ© en anglais.
Sinon tu as le célÚbre manga "Bakuman" de Takeshi Obata et Tsugumi Oba qui montre bien l'envers du décor (à la façon shonen manga bien sûr ^^) et qui est trÚs intéressant pour voir le rythme et l'organisation du travail des mangakas ^^
Bonne semaine Ă toi o/
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What do you think? Are there a lot of mistakes?
I know I still struggle with proportions and shading, but I will keep working on it.
Qu'en pensez vous, il y a beaucoup d'erreur ?
Je sais que j ai encore de la peine avec les proportions et les hachures mais je vais encore bien y travailler
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12/06/2021
I really like your Sailor!
It reminds me of Sailor V.
The pose is detailed and dynamic, itâs really great :)
I like the flowing hair, the ribbon, and the skirt too ^^
These details add a lot of life to your character!
However, what bothers me is the fact that her torso isnât aligned with the lower part of her body.
This is because the upper body is almost facing forward, while, on the contrary, her hips and legs are Ÿ turned away.
Itâs as if you combined two poses into one.
I challenge you to redo this pose properly without twisting your hips ^^
Iâve given you some examples of poses that are similar to what you wanted to do.
If youâre motivated, feel free to use them as inspiration to modify your character :)
Iâve kept the initial positions of the torso or legs.
I understand what you were trying to do, and itâs not that simple, so itâs great that you gave it a try!
Otherwise, one last thing, you need to pay attention to the horizontal lines of your character.
Her right knee is too low compared to her left knee.
Apart from that, I have nothing to say! I canât wait to see her in new poses! :D
Jâaime beaucoup ta Sailor !
Elle me fait penser Ă Sailor V
Sa pose est dĂ©taillĂ©e et dynamique câest vraiment chouette :)
Jâaime bien les cheveux qui volent, le ruban ainsi que la jupe aussi ^^
Ces détails apportent beaucoup de vie à ton personnage !
Ce qui me dérange par contre, c'est le fait que son buste ne soit pas axé avec le bas de son corps.
Cela vient du fait que le haut du corps est quasiment de face alors quâĂ contrario ses fesses et ses jambes sont en Ÿ dos.
Câest comme si tu avais combinĂ© deux poses en une.
Je te mets au défis de refaire cette pose réellement sans te tordre le bassin ^^
Je tâai mis des exemples de poses se rapprochant de ce que voulais faire.
Si tu as la motivation nâhĂ©site pas Ă t'en inspirer pour modifier ton personnage :)
Jâai gardĂ© les positions initiales du buste ou des jambes.
Je comprends bien ce que tu as voulu faire et ce nâest pas si simple donc câest super que tu ait tentĂ© le coup !
Sinon, une derniĂšre chose, il faut faire attention aux horizontales de ton personnage.
Son genou droit est trop bas par rapport Ă son genou gauche.
Appart ça je nâai rien Ă dire ! HĂąte de la voir dans de nouvelles poses ! :D
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28/12/2022
Hello,
Here is my test with a pen and Chinese ink.
Have a nice day,
Estelle
Bonjour,
Voici mon test à la plume et encre de Chine.
Bonne journée,
Estelle
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02/02/2023
Hello EstellTh! Not bad at all for a first attempt at drawing! Plus, you put in a lot of effort with this complicated pose! Great!
Pay attention to the placement and proportions of the legs. The hands are a bit small.
Good job!
Hello EstellTh! Pas mal du tout pour un premier essai à la plume! En plus tu t'es donné du mal avec cette pose compliquée! Super!
Fait attention au placement des jambes et à leur proportions. Les mains sont un peu petites.
Beau boulot!
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20/10/2025
vous en pensez quoi ? sans imprimé
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Hello!
The character design is impressive. As an important observation, I recommend that you review the proportion of the legs. In my opinion, they are a bit small compared to the entire body.
Salut !
Le design du personnage est génial.
Comme observation importante, je te recommande de revoir la proportion des jambes. À mon avis, elles sont un peu petites par rapport à l'ensemble du corps.
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21/10/2025
ok merci cest vrai que cetait super difficile jai mis 2h :)
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Hello everyone,
Here is my drawing. I had some trouble with the hair; I wanted to give it a more frizzy look, but I didnât quite succeed. Do you have any tips?
Thank you, have a good day.
Noam
Bonjour à tous,
Voici mon dessin, j ai eu du mal pour les cheveux je voudrais donner un effet plus frisé mais j ai pas très bien réussi, avez vous des conseils ?
Merci, bonne journée.
Noam