Itâs quite difficult for me to tell whether you understood the logic of the folds, given all the quick hatching you added on top. I can see some good parts and some less good parts.
If you could redo a sketch using only lines, that would be great đ
Hello Shasha ^^
C'est trĂšs difficile pour moi de savoir si tu as compris la logique des plis avec toutes les hachures rapides que tu as faites par-dessus. Je devine des trucs biens et des trucs moins biens.
Si tu peux refaire un croquis juste au trait, ce serait cool đ
It looks pretty good, even if itâs still quite rough. Some folds are missing, but those are the kinds of details you can add later, so youâve got the basics down ^^ If you ever want to develop a drawing further to see how it turns out, feel free to send it to me đ
Itâs still quite messy ^^ Donât rush, take your time, and donât try to hide things or fill them in with hatching.
Iâll show you what I consider a cleaner drawing, based on one of the sketches you sent. Knowing that Iâm not you, and therefore I clean up the drawing differently than you do, and especially, there are areas where I donât know what to choose because there are so many lines (for example, the bent leg with three possible thicknesses â which one is the right one?). I deliberately didnât add any hatching so that you can really see the difference. Itâs not pretty, but that doesnât matter; at least itâs clear, and thereâs no way to interpret it in 36 different ways.
When I look at it, anywhere on your drawing, I shouldnât have areas where I donât really know what to choose. In your latest drawing, the legs (not the feet, but really the legs) are almost clear enough. But in the bust area, there are far too many lines everywhere, which makes the area difficult to read. Itâs a bit confusing, if you will. And itâs not a problem at the sketch stage, as long as you can understand it yourself ^^ But Iâm not you, so I donât perceive your drawing in the same way either. And when I clean it up, there are a lot of things that jump out at me and that donât work. In terms of the folds, but not just that.
You have a lot of potential; I know you can do really cool things if you want, and thatâs also why Iâm curious to see what youâre capable of when you push a drawing.
So, will you rise to the challenge, young Padawan? :3
Tu as beaucoup de potentiel, je sais que tu peux faire des trucs vraiment cool si tu veux, c'est pour ça aussi que ça m'intrigue de voir ce que tu es capable de faire quand tu pousses un dessin.
Du coup, relĂšves-tu le challenge, jeune padawan ? :3
Your first exercise is too blurry; I canât clearly see what youâve done. If you could send it to me again, that would be great!
For the second one, there are some mistakes. The pleated skirt has pleats that start from the waistband, right? This waistband is narrower than the base of the skirt. So, your pleats canât be âstraight.â They will inevitably narrow as they go up towards the waistband.
For the shirt, the closure doesnât follow the volume of the body underneath at all. It looks like weâre looking at it head-on, but thatâs not the case. And for the socks, the same mistake: make sure you follow the volume of the body underneath. And donât forget the friction and tension folds on the shirt. Iâve included a small correction in the image to help you see: D. Iâve put a small diagram of the body volume on the left.
But your choice of outfit is very similar to mine, and I think the clothes are elegant :)
Hello Lison !
Ton premier exercice est trop flou je ne peux pas voir clairement ce que tu as fait ^^' Si tu peux me le renvoyer ce serait cool !
So, the fact that you added color is preventing me from seeing any creases. Iâm afraid youâll have to start over ^^â. Just draw lines this time :3
Hello Clara !
Alors le fait que tu aies mis de la couleur m'empĂȘche de voir le moindre pli. Tu vas devoir recommencer je le crains ^^' Juste Ă la ligne cette fois :3
Overall, itâs pretty good. Youâve correctly identified most of the areas where you should place the folds, but you often tend to place them on the wrong side. The folds around the joints should always be on the side of the bend (they are repeatedly bent, so they remain there). I also modified the logo on the top the model is wearing. As you placed it, itâs just below her left breast, and not centered on her bust (which I think was the original intention). For the jogging suit, remember that if itâs a little loose around her legs, it will create folds (feel free to look at what it looks like on a real jogging suit in photos or on yourself when you wear it).
Iâm attaching a small correction. Itâs not perfect yet; youâll need to pay attention to the folds in the clothing going forward. But itâs not bad đ
Je te joins une petite correction. C'est pas encore acquis, il faudra faire attention pour la suite sur les plis des vĂȘtements. Mais c'est pas mal đ
Hello, so Iâm still copying the exercises by hand because I donât have a printer. I think Iâm folding them in the right places, but not in the right way.
Bonjouur, alors toujours en train de recopier les exercices par manque d imprimante. J ai l impression de placer les plis au bon endroit mais pas de la bonne facon
Actually, you're doing pretty well. The male figure is really good, I'll send you the corrections for that. Just be careful not to make the folds too uniform.
For the girl, I'm attaching some corrections. Yes, you generally place the folds well, you even tend to add a little too many. For example, on the skirt, if you make horizontal folds like that, it means the fabric is stretched, like for a tight-fitting garment. However, you drew a pleated skirt, so it's very unlikely to see that kind of fold on it. Don't hesitate to use photo references of clothing to see how the folds behave on them. I've made the color changes to your drawing, so I've marked them with arrows so you can see the changes.
But I think you have a good foundation. Pay attention to the chest, in real life, breasts aren't perfectly molded into clothes, especially when it comes to loose-fitting garments like a jacket.
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Itâs quite difficult for me to tell whether you understood the logic of the folds, given all the quick hatching you added on top. I can see some good parts and some less good parts.
If you could redo a sketch using only lines, that would be great đ
C'est trĂšs difficile pour moi de savoir si tu as compris la logique des plis avec toutes les hachures rapides que tu as faites par-dessus. Je devine des trucs biens et des trucs moins biens.
Si tu peux refaire un croquis juste au trait, ce serait cool đ
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It looks pretty good, even if itâs still quite rough. Some folds are missing, but those are the kinds of details you can add later, so youâve got the basics down ^^ If you ever want to develop a drawing further to see how it turns out, feel free to send it to me đ
Ăa m'a l'air pas mal, mĂȘme si ça reste trĂšs brouillon. Il manque certains plis, mais c'est le genre de choses qu'on fait apparaitre au propre donc tu as les bases ^^ Si jamais tu veux pousser plus loin un dessin un de ces quatre pour voir ce que ça donne, tu n'hĂ©sites pas Ă m'envoyer đ
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Itâs still quite messy ^^ Donât rush, take your time, and donât try to hide things or fill them in with hatching.
Iâll show you what I consider a cleaner drawing, based on one of the sketches you sent. Knowing that Iâm not you, and therefore I clean up the drawing differently than you do, and especially, there are areas where I donât know what to choose because there are so many lines (for example, the bent leg with three possible thicknesses â which one is the right one?). I deliberately didnât add any hatching so that you can really see the difference. Itâs not pretty, but that doesnât matter; at least itâs clear, and thereâs no way to interpret it in 36 different ways.
When I look at it, anywhere on your drawing, I shouldnât have areas where I donât really know what to choose. In your latest drawing, the legs (not the feet, but really the legs) are almost clear enough. But in the bust area, there are far too many lines everywhere, which makes the area difficult to read. Itâs a bit confusing, if you will. And itâs not a problem at the sketch stage, as long as you can understand it yourself ^^ But Iâm not you, so I donât perceive your drawing in the same way either. And when I clean it up, there are a lot of things that jump out at me and that donât work. In terms of the folds, but not just that.
You have a lot of potential; I know you can do really cool things if you want, and thatâs also why Iâm curious to see what youâre capable of when you push a drawing.
So, will you rise to the challenge, young Padawan? :3
Ăa reste toujours trĂšs brouillon ^^ Ne te prĂ©cipite pas, prends ton temps et n'essaie pas de cacher ou de remplir avec des hachures.
Je te montre ce que j'appelle un dessin plus propre en me basant sur l'un des croquis que tu as envoyĂ©. Sachant que je ne suis pas toi, et que donc, je mets au propre diffĂ©remment de toi, et surtout il y a des zones oĂč je ne sais pas quoi choisir tellement il y a de traits (exemple, la jambe repliĂ©e Ă 3 Ă©paisseurs diffĂ©rentes possibles, laquelle est la bonne ?). Je n'ai volontairement pas mis de hachures pour que rĂ©ellement tu vois la diffĂ©rence. C'est pas beau, mais on s'en fiche, au moins, c'est clair et y a pas moyen d'interprĂ©ter de 36 façons diffĂ©rentes.
Quand je regarde, oĂč que ce soit sur ton dessin, je ne dois pas avoir de zones oĂč je ne sais pas trop quoi choisir. Sur ton dernier dessin, les jambes (pas les pieds, vraiment les jambes), sont presque suffisamment nettes. Mais au niveau du buste y a beaucoup trop de traits partout ce qui rend la zone difficilement lisible. Ăa noie un peu le poisson si tu veux. Et c'est pas dĂ©rangeant au stade du croquis du moment que tu toi tu t'y retrouves ^^ Mais je ne suis pas toi, donc je ne perçois pas ton dessin de la mĂȘme maniĂšre non plus. Et en mettant au propre, il y a des tas de choses qui me sautent aux yeux et qui ne fonctionnent pas. Au niveau des plis, mais pas que.
Tu as beaucoup de potentiel, je sais que tu peux faire des trucs vraiment cool si tu veux, c'est pour ça aussi que ça m'intrigue de voir ce que tu es capable de faire quand tu pousses un dessin.
Du coup, relĂšves-tu le challenge, jeune padawan ? :3
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Your first exercise is too blurry; I canât clearly see what youâve done. If you could send it to me again, that would be great!
For the second one, there are some mistakes. The pleated skirt has pleats that start from the waistband, right? This waistband is narrower than the base of the skirt. So, your pleats canât be âstraight.â They will inevitably narrow as they go up towards the waistband.
For the shirt, the closure doesnât follow the volume of the body underneath at all. It looks like weâre looking at it head-on, but thatâs not the case. And for the socks, the same mistake: make sure you follow the volume of the body underneath. And donât forget the friction and tension folds on the shirt. Iâve included a small correction in the image to help you see: D. Iâve put a small diagram of the body volume on the left.
But your choice of outfit is very similar to mine, and I think the clothes are elegant :)
Ton premier exercice est trop flou je ne peux pas voir clairement ce que tu as fait ^^' Si tu peux me le renvoyer ce serait cool !
Pour le deuxiĂšme, il y a des erreurs. La jupe plissĂ©e a des plis qui partent de la ceinture de la jupe, on est d'accord ? Cette ceinture est plus Ă©troite que le base de la jupe. Donc tes plis ne peuvent pas ĂȘtre "droits". Ils vont forcĂ©ment se resserrer en remontant vers la ceinture ^^
Pour la chemise, la fermeture ne suit pas du tout le volume du corps en dessous. On dirait qu'on la regarde de face alors que pas du tout. Et pour les chaussettes, mĂȘme erreur : suis bien le volume du corps en-dessous. Et n'oublie pas les plis de frictions et de tension sur la chemise. Petite correction en image pour t'aider Ă voir :D Je t'ai mis un petit schĂ©ma Ă gauche du volume du corps.
Mais ton choix de tenue se rapproche beaucoup du mien et les vĂȘtements sont Ă©lĂ©gants je trouve :)
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So, the fact that you added color is preventing me from seeing any creases. Iâm afraid youâll have to start over ^^â. Just draw lines this time :3
Alors le fait que tu aies mis de la couleur m'empĂȘche de voir le moindre pli. Tu vas devoir recommencer je le crains ^^' Juste Ă la ligne cette fois :3
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Here is my first exercise.
Voici mon 1er exercice
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Thank you in advance,
AdĂšle
Merci par avance,
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Overall, itâs pretty good. Youâve correctly identified most of the areas where you should place the folds, but you often tend to place them on the wrong side. The folds around the joints should always be on the side of the bend (they are repeatedly bent, so they remain there). I also modified the logo on the top the model is wearing. As you placed it, itâs just below her left breast, and not centered on her bust (which I think was the original intention). For the jogging suit, remember that if itâs a little loose around her legs, it will create folds (feel free to look at what it looks like on a real jogging suit in photos or on yourself when you wear it).
Iâm attaching a small correction. Itâs not perfect yet; youâll need to pay attention to the folds in the clothing going forward. But itâs not bad đ
Globalement c'est plutĂŽt bien, tu as bien repĂ©rĂ© la plupart des zones oĂč placer tes plis mais tu as souvent tendance Ă les placer du mauvais cĂŽtĂ©. Les plus au niveau des articulations sont toujours du cĂŽtĂ© de la pliure (ils sont pliĂ©s Ă rĂ©pĂ©tition donc ça reste ^^). J'ai Ă©galement modifiĂ© le logo sur le top de la demoiselle, tel que tu l'as placĂ©, il est juste sous son sein gauche, et non centrĂ© sur son buste (comme c'Ă©tait le but premier je pense ^^). Pour le jogging, n'oublie pas que si c'est un peu lĂąche / large autour de ses jambes, alors ça va crĂ©er des plis (n'hĂ©site pas Ă regarder ce que ça donne pour un vrai jogging sur des photos ou sur toi quand tu le portes ^^).
Je te joins une petite correction. C'est pas encore acquis, il faudra faire attention pour la suite sur les plis des vĂȘtements. Mais c'est pas mal đ
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Actually, you're doing pretty well. The male figure is really good, I'll send you the corrections for that. Just be careful not to make the folds too uniform.
For the girl, I'm attaching some corrections. Yes, you generally place the folds well, you even tend to add a little too many. For example, on the skirt, if you make horizontal folds like that, it means the fabric is stretched, like for a tight-fitting garment. However, you drew a pleated skirt, so it's very unlikely to see that kind of fold on it. Don't hesitate to use photo references of clothing to see how the folds behave on them. I've made the color changes to your drawing, so I've marked them with arrows so you can see the changes.
But I think you have a good foundation. Pay attention to the chest, in real life, breasts aren't perfectly molded into clothes, especially when it comes to loose-fitting garments like a jacket.
En fait tu es pas mal juste. Sur l'homme c'est vraiment pas mal, je te renvoie à la correction pour lui. Fais simplement attention à ne pas faire des traits trop réguliers pour les plis ^^
Pur la demoiselle, je te joins une correction. Oui, tu places bien tes plis en rĂšgle gĂ©nĂ©rale, tu as mĂȘme tendance Ă en mettre un chouille trop. Sur la jupe par exemple, si tu fais des plis horizontaux comme ça, c'est que le tissu est Ă©tirĂ©, comme pour un vĂȘtement prĂšs du corps. Or, c'est une jupe plissĂ©e que tu as fait, donc trĂšs trĂšs improbable de voir ce genre de plis dessus. N'hĂ©site pas Ă prendre des rĂ©fĂ©rences photos de vĂȘtements pour voir comment les plis se comportent dessus ^^ J'ai fait les modif de la couleur de ton dessin donc j'ai pointĂ© avec des flĂšches pour que tu puisses voir les changements ^^
Mais tu as de bonnes bases je trouve. Attention pour la poitrine, dans la vrai vie, les seins ne sont pas ultra moulĂ©s parfaitement dans les vĂȘtements, encore moins quand il s'agit de vĂȘtements lĂąches comme ici une veste ^^
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