I like your exercise, I see that you've tried several different things and that was exactly the goal. Well done!
There's just one point I'd like to raise: in the two drawings at the bottom, the gap between the thick and thin lines is very large (e.g. drawing 2: the legs and the lower body, e.g. drawing 3: the hands). Personally, I would have reserved this difference for large illustrations where it would have been necessary to show very distant planes. This way, it would have helped to establish a strict visual hierarchy between the elements of the image. So the principle is not at all to be discarded!
But in the context of a drawing like this, it gives the impression that some parts are somewhat invisible.
Indeed, the 3 attracts the most attention because you have added values to it (which work rather well, by the way).
That said, in terms of pure line values, I would opt for a mix of 1 and 2 (you would keep the light lines that are light on both, and you would emphasize where they are bolder, on one or the other. I'm not sure if I'm making myself clear đ)
But in any case, it all works well!
However, be careful not to have too glaring a difference in values in a small area (e.g., on No. 2, between the sleeve and the arm), as this tends to draw a lot of attention (contrast attracts the eye, by definition) for little benefit đ
Is this an issue you are encountering exclusively on this exercise?
Specifically, the exercise and the support I provide aim to practice drawing in a way other than the "ligne claire" style (= a drawing whose line keeps the same thickness throughout, without any variation).
Note well that ligne claire is not a flaw in itself; it's just one of the many ways to proceed. And it's precisely the other direction that we are looking to explore with this lesson!
In the support material, the rabbit is drawn with ligne claire. It's there for you to draw over, trying to give "stroke values" to see what works, or what does not. And to start gauging whether or not you are comfortable with the process!
1) If things are still not clear, we will continue discussing until we find what's blocking you.
2) In the meantime, a small intermediate exercise: open a copy of each comic book you own, and try to "rank" them from "strongest stroke values" to "weakest stroke values". (unless you have 35,000 comic books at home... And then Ok... Not all! :-p ) Because I suspect that your block might stem from your lack of experience with the subject. (This is said with no malice, and I could very well be mistaken!)
3) And if you haven't done so already, move on to the next step! With drawing, everyone has their own pace, and it is not uncommon for things to become clearer afterward :-)
Hang in there!
Greg
Salut Choukynette !
Est-ce que c'est un soucis que tu rencontre exclusivement sur cet exercice ?
To answer your question, Iâm having problems with all the subjects. I canât understand what you are asking us to do in the exercises. Iâm always off the mark. When I listen to the class, itâs like thereâs a wall in my brain, I canât progress.
I donât understand where my blockage is coming from. Also, as I said in my introduction, I'm more than a beginner and I donât know where to start. I feel lost, I have no foundation. And it's really very difficult. I feel that I am motivated and that this motivation does not decrease even though I donât know what to do at all.
In any case, thank you for your response and for your courses which are really very clear and interesting. đ
First and foremost, don't let yourself be intimidated. Nothing that we do here is beyond your reach. As I say in the first class, contrary to popular belief, drawing is for everyone. Sometimes we just need a little boost.
Secondly, don't dwell on any obstacles. If you're struggling with the exercises, it's not a big deal. Not doing them doesn't prevent you from following the next lesson ^^ so keep moving forward in the training!
Maybe your discomfort comes from the fact that you find it hard to see the purpose of the exercises. In which case, you'll probably appreciate the summaries đ
So:
- don't hesitate to move forward with the lessons. Go all the way to the end!
- Don't be too hard on yourself. As I said, everyone progresses at their own pace and that's a good thing, it's one of the advantages of online training đ
- Once you have reached the end of the training, go back to the beginning and see if the exercises speak to you more. Things will likely seem more concrete by then.
Dans un second temps, ne reste pas sur un blocage. Si tu as du mal avec les exercices, ce n'est pas trĂšs grave. Ne pas les faire n'empĂȘche pas de suivre le cours suivant ^^ donc avance dans la formation !
- Ne sois pas trop dure avec toi-mĂȘme. Comme je le disais, chacun avance Ă son rythme et c'est tant mieux, c'est un des avantages des formations en ligne đ
No worries, copying is also an excellent exercise. So you did two in one with that one ^^
But you know, this rabbit is just an excuse I use to practice. The important thing is that you think about it regularly, so you can do it with any drawing you want!
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Your explanations are very interesting
Keep going (we can also encourage the teacher!...)
Vos explications sont trÚs intéressantes
Continuez (on peut aussi encourager le prof!...)
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Thank you for your (/ your?) encouragement! đ
I'm glad you like the courses.
I like your exercise, I see that you've tried several different things and that was exactly the goal. Well done!
There's just one point I'd like to raise: in the two drawings at the bottom, the gap between the thick and thin lines is very large (e.g. drawing 2: the legs and the lower body, e.g. drawing 3: the hands). Personally, I would have reserved this difference for large illustrations where it would have been necessary to show very distant planes. This way, it would have helped to establish a strict visual hierarchy between the elements of the image. So the principle is not at all to be discarded!
But in the context of a drawing like this, it gives the impression that some parts are somewhat invisible.
I hope this helps!
Keep up the good work and see you soon,
Greg
Merci pour vos (/ tes ?) encouragements ! đ
Je suis content que les cours vous plaisent.
J'aime bien votre exo, je vois que vous avez essayé plusieurs choses bien différentes et c'était précisément l'objectif. C'est bien !
Il y a juste un point que je vais me permettre de relever : sur les deux dessins du bas, l'écart entre les traits épais et les traits fins est trÚs grand (ex dessin 2 : les pattes et le bas du corps, ex dessin 3 : les mains). Personnellement, j'aurais réservé cette différence pour des grandes illustrations dans lesquelles il aurait fallu montrer des plans trÚs distants. De cette façon, cela aurait permis d'établir une hiérarchie visuelle stricte entre les éléments de l'image. Donc le principe n'est pas du tout à jeter !
Mais dans le cadre d'un dessin comme celui lĂ , cela donne l'impression que certaines parties sont un peu invisibles.
J'espĂšre que cela aide !
Bonne continuation et Ă bientĂŽt,
Greg
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Here are my 4 rabbit attempts.
I feel that it's the 3rd one that makes the strongest impression, what do you think?
Voici mes 4 essais de lapins.
J'ai l'impression que c'est le 3 qui produit la plus forte impression, qu'en penses-tu?
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Great job đđ
Indeed, the 3 attracts the most attention because you have added values to it (which work rather well, by the way).
That said, in terms of pure line values, I would opt for a mix of 1 and 2 (you would keep the light lines that are light on both, and you would emphasize where they are bolder, on one or the other. I'm not sure if I'm making myself clear đ)
But in any case, it all works well!
However, be careful not to have too glaring a difference in values in a small area (e.g., on No. 2, between the sleeve and the arm), as this tends to draw a lot of attention (contrast attracts the eye, by definition) for little benefit đ
Keep it up!
See you soon,
Greg
Beau boulot đđ
En effet, le 3 attire le plus lâĆil parce que tu as ajoutĂ© des valeurs dessus (qui marchent plutĂŽt bien, au passage).
Cela dit, en termes de valeurs traits uniquement, j'opterais plutĂŽt pour un mĂ©lange du 1 et du 2 (tu garderais les traits lĂ©gers qui sont lĂ©gers sur les deux, et tu forcerais lĂ oĂč ils sont forcĂ©s, sur l'un ou l'autre. Je ne sais pas si je suis clair đ)
Mais quoi qu'il en soit, le tout fonctionne bien !
Attention tout de mĂȘme Ă ne pas avoir de diffĂ©rence de valeurs trop flagrante dans une petite zone (ex sur le N°2, entre la manche et le bras), car cela a tendance Ă beaucoup attirer le regard (le contraste attire lâĆil, par dĂ©finition) pour pas grand chose đ
Continue comme ça !
Ă bientĂŽt,
Greg
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It seems I have a little problem. I don't understand what we are being asked to do.
Yet I watch and listen to the videos all the way through. It seems like the information hits a wall and prevents me from understanding.
How can I fix this problem? Is anyone else experiencing the same issue?
Thank you for your replies and good advice.
Have a nice day.
Il me semble que j'ai un petit problĂšme. Je ne comprend pas ce qu'on nous demande de faire.
Pourtant je regarde et Ă©coute les vidĂ©os jusqu'au bout. Il me semble que l'information percute un mur et m'empĂȘche de comprendre.
Comment remĂ©dier Ă ce problĂšme. Est-ce que quelqu'un d'autre rencontre le mĂȘme problĂšme ?
Merci de vos réponses et vos bons conseils.
Bonne journée.
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Is this an issue you are encountering exclusively on this exercise?
Specifically, the exercise and the support I provide aim to practice drawing in a way other than the "ligne claire" style (= a drawing whose line keeps the same thickness throughout, without any variation).
Note well that ligne claire is not a flaw in itself; it's just one of the many ways to proceed. And it's precisely the other direction that we are looking to explore with this lesson!
In the support material, the rabbit is drawn with ligne claire. It's there for you to draw over, trying to give "stroke values" to see what works, or what does not. And to start gauging whether or not you are comfortable with the process!
1) If things are still not clear, we will continue discussing until we find what's blocking you.
2) In the meantime, a small intermediate exercise: open a copy of each comic book you own, and try to "rank" them from "strongest stroke values" to "weakest stroke values". (unless you have 35,000 comic books at home... And then Ok... Not all! :-p ) Because I suspect that your block might stem from your lack of experience with the subject. (This is said with no malice, and I could very well be mistaken!)
3) And if you haven't done so already, move on to the next step! With drawing, everyone has their own pace, and it is not uncommon for things to become clearer afterward :-)
Hang in there!
Greg
Est-ce que c'est un soucis que tu rencontre exclusivement sur cet exercice ?
ConcrĂštement, l'exercice et le support que je donne visent Ă s'entraĂźner Ă dessiner autrement qu'Ă la "ligne claire" ( = un dessin dont le trait garde constamment la mĂȘme Ă©paisseur, sans aucune variation).
Note bien que la ligne claire n'est absolument pas un défaut en soi, c'est seulement une des multiples façons de procéder. Et c'est justement l'autre direction que l'on cherche à explorer avec cette leçon !
Sur le support, le lapin est dessiné à la ligne claire. Il est là pour que tu dessines par dessus, en cherchant à donner des "valeurs de traits" pour voir ce qui fonctionne, ou ce qui ne fonctionne pas. Et commencer à prendre la température, pour savoir si tu es à l'aise ou pas avec le procédé !
1) Si tu n'y vois pas plus clair, on continuera Ă en discuter jusqu'Ă trouver ce qui te bloque.
2) Entre temps, petit exo intermédiaire : ouvre un exemplaire de chaque BD que tu as chez toi, et essaie de les "classer" par ordre de "plus fortes valeurs de traits" à "moins fortes valeurs de traits". (sauf si tu as 35 000 BD à la maison... Et là Ok... Pas toutes ! :-p ) Parce que je soupçonne que ton blocage provient de ton inexpérience avec le sujet. (C'est dit sans aucune méchanceté, et je peux tout à fait me tromper !)
3) Et si ce n'est pas déjà fait, passe à la suite ! Avec le dessin on a chacun son propre rythme, et il n'est pas rare que les choses se débloquent à postériori :-)
Courage !
Greg
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To answer your question, Iâm having problems with all the subjects. I canât understand what you are asking us to do in the exercises. Iâm always off the mark. When I listen to the class, itâs like thereâs a wall in my brain, I canât progress.
I donât understand where my blockage is coming from. Also, as I said in my introduction, I'm more than a beginner and I donât know where to start. I feel lost, I have no foundation. And it's really very difficult. I feel that I am motivated and that this motivation does not decrease even though I donât know what to do at all.
In any case, thank you for your response and for your courses which are really very clear and interesting. đ
Pour répondre à ta question, c'est avec tous les sujets que j'ai des problÚmes. Je n'arrive pas à comprendre ce que tu nous demande de faire comme exercices. Je suis toujours à cÎté de la plaque. Quand j'écoute le cours il y a comme un mur dans mon cerveau, je n'arrive pas à évoluer.
Je ne comprend d'oĂč vient mon bloquage. AprĂšs, comme j'ai dis dans ma prĂ©sentation, je suis plus que dĂ©butante et je ne sais pas par oĂč commencer. Je me sens perdue, je n'ai aucune base. Et c'est vraiment trĂšs difficile. Je sens que je suis motivĂ©e et que cette motivation ne diminue pas mĂȘme si je ne sais plus du tout quoi faire.
En tout cas merci pour ta rĂ©ponse et pour tes cours qui sont vraiment trĂšs clair et intĂ©ressants. đ
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First and foremost, don't let yourself be intimidated. Nothing that we do here is beyond your reach. As I say in the first class, contrary to popular belief, drawing is for everyone. Sometimes we just need a little boost.
Secondly, don't dwell on any obstacles. If you're struggling with the exercises, it's not a big deal. Not doing them doesn't prevent you from following the next lesson ^^ so keep moving forward in the training!
Maybe your discomfort comes from the fact that you find it hard to see the purpose of the exercises. In which case, you'll probably appreciate the summaries đ
So:
- don't hesitate to move forward with the lessons. Go all the way to the end!
- Don't be too hard on yourself. As I said, everyone progresses at their own pace and that's a good thing, it's one of the advantages of online training đ
- Once you have reached the end of the training, go back to the beginning and see if the exercises speak to you more. Things will likely seem more concrete by then.
Hang in there!
Greg
PremiÚrement, surtout, ne te laisse pas intimider. Rien de ce que l'on fait ici n'est en dehors de ta portée. Comme je le dis dans le premier cours, contrairement aux idées reçues le dessin c'est pour tout le monde. On a parfois juste besoin d'un petit déclic.
Dans un second temps, ne reste pas sur un blocage. Si tu as du mal avec les exercices, ce n'est pas trĂšs grave. Ne pas les faire n'empĂȘche pas de suivre le cours suivant ^^ donc avance dans la formation !
Peut-ĂȘtre que ton malaise vient du fait que tu as du mal Ă voir l'application des exos. Auquel cas, tu apprĂ©cieras sans doute les rĂ©caps đ
Donc :
- n'hĂ©site pas Ă avancer dans les leçons. Va jusqu'Ă la fin mĂȘme !
- Ne sois pas trop dure avec toi-mĂȘme. Comme je le disais, chacun avance Ă son rythme et c'est tant mieux, c'est un des avantages des formations en ligne đ
- Une fois que tu seras arrivée au bout de la formation, reviens au début, et vois si les exos te parlent plus. Les choses te paraßtront sûrement plus concrÚtes d'ici-là .
Courage !
Greg
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Have a great day. đđ
Bonne journĂ©e. đđ
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Keep me posted đ
Tiens-moi au courant đ
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Thank you for this amazing class, I really appreciated seeing the different results and what it brings to the drawing!!!
I tried my best..... Thanks for the feedback đđđ
Can't wait for the next class.... đ
Merci pour ce cours génial , j'ai beaucoup apprécié le fait de voir les différents rendus et ce que cela apporte au dessin !!!
J'ai essayĂ© de faire au mieux ..... Merci pour les retours đđđ
Vite le prochain cours .... đ
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Thank you!
You're doing great work :-) For this kind of exercise, the only way to improve is by doing a lot of them. And you need to pay attention to:
1) the changes it implies on the drawing and
2) Your personal tastes, and what you find stylish or not. ^^
You'll see, soon you wonât even have to think about it anymore!
Merci Ă toi !
Tu bosses bien :-) Pour ce genre d'exo, il n'y a qu'en en faisant plein qu'on progresse. Et il faut ĂȘtre attentif Ă :
1) les changements que cela implique sur le dessin et
2) De ses goûts personnels, et de ce que l'on trouve stylé ou pas. ^^
Tu verras, un de ces quatre tu n'y rĂ©flĂ©chiras mĂȘme plus !
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No worries, copying is also an excellent exercise. So you did two in one with that one ^^
But you know, this rabbit is just an excuse I use to practice. The important thing is that you think about it regularly, so you can do it with any drawing you want!
Keep it up đ
Pas de soucis, recopier est Ă©galement un excellent exercice. Tu as donc fait deux en un avec celui lĂ ^^
Mais tu sais, ce lapin n'est qu'un prétexte que je donne pour pouvoir s'entraßner. L'important est que tu y penses réguliÚrement, donc tu peux faire ça avec le dessin que tu veux !
Continue comme ça đ