Hello!
Here you go, these are my little rabbit mages. The exercise was really fun to do and allowed me to realize the change that line values can bring to a drawing :-D
I think the first 4 shouldn't be too bad. However, after watching the correction video, I realized that I had done exactly what shouldn't be done for the 5th one, haha. I overlaid all the previous versions and therefore ended up with a pretty dark rendering almost everywhere. It is actually quite close to the 4th sketch... For the 6th, I tried a light coming from behind the character.
I am still very excited to hear your feedback :-)
Have a good afternoon!
Overall, this is very nice work and well understood :) It's skillful and elegant! Everything is good with the first sheet :)
On the second sheet, for the play of shadows, it's very pretty but the fact that you made real shadows somewhat obscures the line values. It seems like the light is coming from the upper left, so the right bottom side of the cape should be highlighted a bit more. However, the 6 works well for the shadow guideline so I actually think you got it. For the "mix," indeed it's not necessary to apply all 4 rules at once, it can be a lot. Yet, it's elegant and you handle it well. As with the 4, the true shaded shadows were not necessarily part of the guideline since they don't stay within the line values.
Hello!
I'm really pleased with your compliments :-D
You are right about the 4th one, I wasn't sure if shadows could count as line values or not. That's one of the reasons why I did the 6th one on the same principle, but just going over the lines without adding extra shadows. And you can still understand where the light is coming from.
I'll keep that in mind for next time ;-)
Thanks again for this thorough response.
Have a great day.
So, it's not bad, but it needs reworking on certain points. For number 3, we can't see much, it's too faint. Also be careful, I think you forgot some angles, remember that every intersection of lines creates angles. For number 4, I understand that you wanted the light to come from the right, but it looks like the character is just cut in half with one half in complete shadow, as if it was totally in the dark. If the light is coming from the right of the paper, the left side of each element will be in shadow, but not entirely. For example, the left side of the right part of the cloak, the left side of the right ear... Like you did for the stick! For number 2, I don't think you understood, it's not the lower lines of the shapes that are highlighted. You should imagine it as if there were a light on top. So what would be emphasized would be for example under the head, beneath the paws, at the bottom of the cloak, the bottom of the scarf... Those are my comments! I hope you understand better :)
Hello Nayala, indeed I had not understood point 2 well; it's much clearer now with the idea of the light from above. In any case, I will have to experiment with objects and a lamp to better understand where the shadow goes... not easy to just imagine đ. Thank you very much for your explanations.
Yes, imagining the direction of the light comes with practice, in the meantime creating a model and retaining by observation is a good solution :) You're welcome!
The first two rabbits are pretty well understood. There are just some small confusions with some features that should not be highlighted or vice versa, although it works overall. For example, on the first rabbit, the right side of the scarf is shaded while it should be in the light. For the silhouette one, some inner features were highlighted when they should not have been. For the one with the angles, I think it was not quite understood. You need to highlight all angles including the crossing of lines, not just angular objects, and make transitions in line thickness. I made a correction on a piece of the cape to show an example.
For this one, it's nice work but lacks consistency. For the first one, some of the lower strokes are emphasized but not all of them and that's not all. A code must be applied everywhere consistently. I'll show visually. So the same issue for the second one. Also, when we talk about shadows, we talk about emphasizing the strokes on the shadow side, not literally making a shadow. In the end, it's pretty but doesn't exactly match the statements.
For number 4, I repeat what I said earlier, regarding the shadows, that's not what was asked for; you should emphasize the lines on the shadow side, but shades of gray for the shadows are not requested.
For number 5, it looks good but that's not what's asked for the silhouette either, which represents the outer contour of the rabbit. I'm attaching a tutorial for a better understanding. Regarding the corners, the highlighting at certain spots looks good, but you should apply the code everywhere.
For the last one, it's perfect for the corners, thatâs exactly what was asked for, it's noticeable and consistently good everywhere, well done! For the shadows, same comment as for the others, but just from an aesthetic point of view, it looks good ^^
In conclusion, it's beautiful, neat, and well-executed work, we see nice values in the lines, but be careful with some instructions that were not well understood. I hope it will be clearer now :)
Thatâs pretty good work :) However, there are still some flaws or misunderstandings.
For number 1, it's not what is requested for the silhouette, I'm leaving you an explanatory tutorial!
For number 5, it could be good but the lines are too thick, it still needs to be harmonious. Also, the large gradient shadows are indeed not part of the line values and blur the vision somewhat, making it difficult to highlight the lines.
For number 2 it's well understood, I approve :)
For number 3 the concept is understood :) However, it's a bit too thick to be harmonious with the rest. Also, when applying a code, it needs to be applied everywhere to work well. Remember that all intersections of lines form angles ;)
Number 4 looks good in terms of lines on the shadow side :) Just like I said earlier, the large shadows that are not lines are unnecessary.
That's some good work, most aspects are well understood :)
Regarding the silhouette, it's understood, but we can consider that the stick is part of the character so you could have included its silhouette too ^^
The one about angles is mostly understood, but for more harmony when applying a letter it should be applied everywhere, so to all angles, including those formed by the crossing of lines. Also, the thicknesses stop abruptly rather than blending gradually into finer ones. Maybe your pen doesnât help with thickness variations, you can use a pencil if necessary.
For the 5, all lines are retraced, so in the end, it's as if everything was in clear line. So that's not what you should do. Take for example 2 instructions and combine them, it shouldn't lead to retracing everything.
Let's move on to the second page!
For the 2, the lower lines of the shapes are good :) For the 3, the same issues as with the angles from the first page.
For the 4, itâs understood that the emphasis needs to be on the shadowed side, but here it looks as if the character was split in two. Even for elements on the left thus on the shadow side, the right side of each element should receive light. So on the left side, some pieces shouldn't be emphasized. Conversely, on the right nothing is highlighted, while the left side of the elements should be in shadow. Tell me if it's not clear!
There are indeed some corrections to be made but itâs all great work :)
Well done, it all seems well understood :) Be careful on the first one (silhouette), you forgot the sleeve holes, it's easy to forget! Otherwise, it's all good :)
... very interesting. Seeing the correction after doing the exercise already helps me see some of my mistakes...đ
Thank you for your corrections ....
I corrected on the sheet (I hope it's readable, if not let me know), and I attached a tutorial for the silhouette which was not well understood. Otherwise, for the rest, the exercises are fairly well understood, with a few small things to review but it's generally good work :)
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Here you go, these are my little rabbit mages. The exercise was really fun to do and allowed me to realize the change that line values can bring to a drawing :-D
I think the first 4 shouldn't be too bad. However, after watching the correction video, I realized that I had done exactly what shouldn't be done for the 5th one, haha. I overlaid all the previous versions and therefore ended up with a pretty dark rendering almost everywhere. It is actually quite close to the 4th sketch... For the 6th, I tried a light coming from behind the character.
I am still very excited to hear your feedback :-)
Have a good afternoon!
Voilà voilà , je vous présente mes petits mages lapins. L'exercice était vraiment chouette à faire et m'a permis de me rendre compte du changement que peuvent apporter des valeurs de traits à un dessin :-D
Je pense que les 4 premiers ne doivent pas ĂȘtre trop mal. Par contre, aprĂšs avoir regardĂ© la vidĂ©o de correction, je me suis rendue compte que j'avais fais exactement ce qu'il ne fallait pas pour le 5Ăšme ahah. J'ai superposĂ© toutes les versions prĂ©cĂ©dentes et donc obtenu un rendu assez sombre d'un peu partout. Il se rapproche d'ailleurs assez fort du 4Ăšme croquis... Pour le 6Ăšme, j'ai testĂ© une lumiĂšre provenant de l'arriĂšre du personnage.
Je suis toujours aussi impatiente d'avoir un retour de votre part :-)
Bon aprĂšs-midi !
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Overall, this is very nice work and well understood :) It's skillful and elegant! Everything is good with the first sheet :)
On the second sheet, for the play of shadows, it's very pretty but the fact that you made real shadows somewhat obscures the line values. It seems like the light is coming from the upper left, so the right bottom side of the cape should be highlighted a bit more. However, the 6 works well for the shadow guideline so I actually think you got it. For the "mix," indeed it's not necessary to apply all 4 rules at once, it can be a lot. Yet, it's elegant and you handle it well. As with the 4, the true shaded shadows were not necessarily part of the guideline since they don't stay within the line values.
In any case, everything is nicely done ^^
c'est globalement du trÚs beau travail bien compris :) C'est maßtrisé et élégant ! Pour la premiÚre feuille tout est bon :)
Sur la deuxiĂšme feuille, pour celui des ombres, c'est trĂšs joli mais le fait d'avoir fait de vraies ombres cache un peu les valeurs de trait. J'ai l'impression que la lumiĂšre vient d'en haut Ă gauche, le cĂŽtĂ© droit du bas de la cape devrait donc ĂȘtre un plus mis en valeur. AprĂšs le 6 convient bien pour cette consigne des ombres donc en vrai je pense que c'est compris. Pour celui "mix", effectivement ce n'est pas obligĂ© d'appliquer les 4 rĂšgles d'un coup, ça peut faire beaucoup. Pourtant c'est Ă©lĂ©gant et tu t'en sors bien. Comme pour le 4 les vraies ombres grisĂ©es n'Ă©taient pas forcĂ©ment dans la consigne vu que ça ne reste pas dans les valeurs de trait.
En tous cas c'est bien soigné tout ça ^^
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I'm really pleased with your compliments :-D
You are right about the 4th one, I wasn't sure if shadows could count as line values or not. That's one of the reasons why I did the 6th one on the same principle, but just going over the lines without adding extra shadows. And you can still understand where the light is coming from.
I'll keep that in mind for next time ;-)
Thanks again for this thorough response.
Have a great day.
Vos compliments me font vraiment plaisir :-D
Vous avez raison pour le 4e, je ne savais pas si les ombres pouvaient compter pour des valeurs de traits ou non. C'est une des raisons pour lesquelles j'ai rĂ©alisĂ© le 6e sur le mĂȘme principe, mais en repassant uniquement sur les traits sans ajouter d'ombres supplĂ©mentaires. Et on comprend bien malgrĂ© tout d'oĂč vient la lumiĂšre.
Je retiens pour la prochaine fois ;-)
Encore merci pour cette réponse bien complÚte.
Belle journée à vous.
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So, it's not bad, but it needs reworking on certain points. For number 3, we can't see much, it's too faint. Also be careful, I think you forgot some angles, remember that every intersection of lines creates angles. For number 4, I understand that you wanted the light to come from the right, but it looks like the character is just cut in half with one half in complete shadow, as if it was totally in the dark. If the light is coming from the right of the paper, the left side of each element will be in shadow, but not entirely. For example, the left side of the right part of the cloak, the left side of the right ear... Like you did for the stick! For number 2, I don't think you understood, it's not the lower lines of the shapes that are highlighted. You should imagine it as if there were a light on top. So what would be emphasized would be for example under the head, beneath the paws, at the bottom of the cloak, the bottom of the scarf... Those are my comments! I hope you understand better :)
Alors, c'est pas mal, mais Ă retravailler sur certains points. Pour le 3, on ne voit pas beaucoup, c'est trop lĂ©ger. Attention aussi j'ai l'impression que tu as oubliĂ© des angles, il faut se rappeler que tout croisement de traits crĂ©Ă© des angles. Pour le 4 je comprends que tu voulais que la lumiĂšre vienne de la droite, mais on dirait que le personnage est juste coupĂ© en 2 avec la moitiĂ© dans l'ombre complĂšte, comme si c'Ă©tait totalement dans le noir. Si la lumiĂšre vient de la droite de la feuille, le cĂŽtĂ© gauche de chaque Ă©lĂ©ment sera dans l'ombre, mais pas tout. Par exemple le cĂŽtĂ© gauche de la partie droite de la cape, le cĂŽtĂ© gauche de l'oreille droite... Comme tu as fait pour le bĂąton ! Pour le 2 je ne pense pas que tu aies compris, ce ne sont pas les traits infĂ©rieurs des formes qui sont mis en valeur. Il faut l'imaginer comme si il y avait une lumiĂšre sur le dessus. Donc ce qui serait accentuĂ© serait par exemple sous la tĂȘte, sous les pattes, en bas de la cape, le bas du foulard... VoilĂ pour mes commentaires ! J'espĂšre que tu comprendras mieux :)
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Here is my exercise for tidying up the drawings.
I used 3 methods:
- Shadows: rabbit in the top right
- Silhouette: at the bottom left
- Angles: at the bottom right.
Have a good day
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Voici mon exercice pour la mise au propre des dessins.
J'ai utilisé 3 méthodes:
- Les ombres: lapin en haut Ă droite
- La silhouette: en bas a gauche
- Les angles: en bas Ă droite.
Bonne journée
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Sorry for the delay ^^'
The first two rabbits are pretty well understood. There are just some small confusions with some features that should not be highlighted or vice versa, although it works overall. For example, on the first rabbit, the right side of the scarf is shaded while it should be in the light. For the silhouette one, some inner features were highlighted when they should not have been. For the one with the angles, I think it was not quite understood. You need to highlight all angles including the crossing of lines, not just angular objects, and make transitions in line thickness. I made a correction on a piece of the cape to show an example.
Good work anyway :)
Désolée pour le retard ^^'
C'est plutĂŽt bien compris pour les 2 premiers lapins. Il y a juste quelques petites confusions avec quelques traits qui ne devraient pas ĂȘtre mis en valeur ou inversement, mĂȘme si ça marche au global/ Par exemple sur le premier lapin le cĂŽtĂ© Ă droite du foulard est ombrĂ© alors qu'il devrait ĂȘtre dans la lumiĂšre. Pour celui de la silhouette certains traits intĂ©rieurs ont Ă©tĂ© mis en valeur alors qu'ils ne devraient pas. Pour celui des angles, je pense que ça n'a pas Ă©tĂ© tout Ă fait compris. Il faut mettre en valeur tous les angles dont les croisements de traits, pas seulement les objets anguleux, et faire des transitions d'Ă©paisseur de trait. J'ai corrigĂ© sur un bout de cape pour montrer l'exemple.
Bon travail en tous cas :)
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I worked on all the features but I emphasized certain aspects more.
Rabbit 1: Lower traits
Rabbit 2: Lower traits, angles, and shadows
Rabbit 3: Silhouette and angles
Rabbit 4: Fine lines and shading
Rabbit 5: Stronger angles and light shading.
I tried to apply myself and I found this class nice, it completely changes the dynamic of a drawing, this story of lines.
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J'ai travaillé tous les traits mais j'ai forcé plus sur certains aspects.
Lap 1: traits inférieurs
Lap 2 : Traits inférieurs, angles et ombres
Lap 3: Silhouette et angles
Lap 4: Traits fins et ombrages
Lap 5: Angles plus forts et légers ombrages.
J'ai essayé de m'appliquer et j'ai trouvé ce cours sympa, ça change la dynamique complÚte d'un dessin cette histoire de traits.
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I will go sheet by sheet!
For this one, it's nice work but lacks consistency. For the first one, some of the lower strokes are emphasized but not all of them and that's not all. A code must be applied everywhere consistently. I'll show visually. So the same issue for the second one. Also, when we talk about shadows, we talk about emphasizing the strokes on the shadow side, not literally making a shadow. In the end, it's pretty but doesn't exactly match the statements.
Je vais faire feuille par feuille !
Pour celle lĂ , c'est du joli travail mais qui manque de cohĂ©rence. Pour le premier une partie des traits infĂ©rieurs sont accentuĂ©s mais pas tous et pas que ça. Il faut appliquer un code partout de maniĂšre cohĂ©rente. Je montre visuellement. Du coup mĂȘme souci pour le deuxiĂšme. De plus quand on parle d'ombres on parle d'accentuer les traits du cĂŽtĂ© de l'ombre, pas littĂ©ralement faire de l'ombre. Au final c'est joli mais ne correspond pas spĂ©cialement aux Ă©noncĂ©s.
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For number 5, it looks good but that's not what's asked for the silhouette either, which represents the outer contour of the rabbit. I'm attaching a tutorial for a better understanding. Regarding the corners, the highlighting at certain spots looks good, but you should apply the code everywhere.
For the last one, it's perfect for the corners, thatâs exactly what was asked for, it's noticeable and consistently good everywhere, well done! For the shadows, same comment as for the others, but just from an aesthetic point of view, it looks good ^^
In conclusion, it's beautiful, neat, and well-executed work, we see nice values in the lines, but be careful with some instructions that were not well understood. I hope it will be clearer now :)
Pour le 5, ça rend bien mais ce n'est pas ça non plus qui est demandé pour la silhouette, qui représente le contour extérieur du lapin, je joins un tuto pour mieux comprendre. Pour les angles on voit la mise en valeur à certains endroits et ça rend bien, mais il faudrait appliquer le code partout.
Pour le dernier, c'est nickel pour les angles, c'est bien ce qui est demandĂ©, on le remarque bien et c'est bien homogĂšne partout, bien jouĂ© ! Pour les ombres, mĂȘme commentaire que pour les autres, mais juste d'un point de vue esthĂ©tique ça rend bien ^^
En conclusion c'est du beau travail soigné et bien réalisé, on voit de belles valeurs de trait, mais attention à certaines consignes qui n'ont pas été bien comprises. J'espÚre que ça sera plus clair maintenant :)
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here is my work based on the 5 exercise proposals. I drew directly on photocopies of the PDF, as I don't have a light table.
Maybe my lines go beyond the "line value" explained in this course?
Thank you in advance for your feedback and have a good day,
voici pour mon travail en fonction des 5 propositions d'exercices. J'ai dessiné directement sur des photocopies du pdf, n'ayant pas de table lumineuse.
Mes traites vont peut ĂȘtre au-delĂ de la "valeur de trait" expliquer dans ce cours ?
Merci d'avance pour votre retour et bonne journée,
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Thatâs pretty good work :) However, there are still some flaws or misunderstandings.
For number 1, it's not what is requested for the silhouette, I'm leaving you an explanatory tutorial!
For number 5, it could be good but the lines are too thick, it still needs to be harmonious. Also, the large gradient shadows are indeed not part of the line values and blur the vision somewhat, making it difficult to highlight the lines.
For number 2 it's well understood, I approve :)
For number 3 the concept is understood :) However, it's a bit too thick to be harmonious with the rest. Also, when applying a code, it needs to be applied everywhere to work well. Remember that all intersections of lines form angles ;)
Number 4 looks good in terms of lines on the shadow side :) Just like I said earlier, the large shadows that are not lines are unnecessary.
Good work anyway :)
C'est plutĂŽt du bon travail :) Il y a tout de mĂȘme quelques dĂ©fauts ou incomprĂ©hensions.
Pour le 1, ce n'est pas ce qui est demandé pour la silhouette, je te laisse un tuto explicatif !
Pour le 5, ça pourrait ĂȘtre bien mais les traits sont trop Ă©pais, il faut tout de mĂȘme que ça reste harmonieux. Aussi, les grosses ombres en dĂ©gradĂ© ne font effectivement pas partie des valeurs de trait et brouillent un peu la vision pour mettre en valeur les traits.
Pour le 2 c'est bien compris, je valide :)
Pour le 3 le principe est compris :) Cependant c'est un peu trop Ă©pais pour ĂȘtre harmonieux avec le reste. Aussi, quand on applique un code, on l'applique partout pour que ça fonctionne bien. Il faut se rappeler que tous les croisements de traits forment des angles ;)
Le 4 m'a l'air bien au niveau des traits du cÎté des ombres :) Juste comme j'ai dit plus tÎt, les grosses ombres qui ne sont pas des traits ne sont pas nécessaires.
Bon travail en tous cas :)
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That's some good work, most aspects are well understood :)
Regarding the silhouette, it's understood, but we can consider that the stick is part of the character so you could have included its silhouette too ^^
The one about angles is mostly understood, but for more harmony when applying a letter it should be applied everywhere, so to all angles, including those formed by the crossing of lines. Also, the thicknesses stop abruptly rather than blending gradually into finer ones. Maybe your pen doesnât help with thickness variations, you can use a pencil if necessary.
For the 5, all lines are retraced, so in the end, it's as if everything was in clear line. So that's not what you should do. Take for example 2 instructions and combine them, it shouldn't lead to retracing everything.
Let's move on to the second page!
For the 2, the lower lines of the shapes are good :) For the 3, the same issues as with the angles from the first page.
For the 4, itâs understood that the emphasis needs to be on the shadowed side, but here it looks as if the character was split in two. Even for elements on the left thus on the shadow side, the right side of each element should receive light. So on the left side, some pieces shouldn't be emphasized. Conversely, on the right nothing is highlighted, while the left side of the elements should be in shadow. Tell me if it's not clear!
There are indeed some corrections to be made but itâs all great work :)
C'est du bon travail, la plupart des éléments sont bien compris :)
Pour celui de la silhouette c'est compris, mais on peut considérer que le bùton fait partie du personnage donc tu pouvais intégrer sa silhouette aussi ^^
Celui des angles est assez compris, mais pour plus d'harmonie quand on applique une lettre il faut l'appliquer partout, donc Ă tous les angles, dont ceux formĂ©s par les croisements de traits. Aussi les Ă©paisseurs s'arrĂȘtent net plutĂŽt que de se fondre progressivement dans le plus fin. AprĂšs je pense que ton stylo n'aide pas Ă faire des variations d'Ă©paisseur, tu peux y aller plutĂŽt au crayon si besoin.
Pour le 5, tous les traits sont repassés, donc au final c'est comme si on avait tout à la ligne claire. Donc ce n'est pas ça qu'il faut faire. Prends par exemple 2 consignes et combine les, ça ne devrait pas mener à repasser tout.
Passons Ă la seconde page !
Le 2, pour les traits infĂ©rieurs des formes, c'est bon :) Pour le 3, mĂȘmes problĂšmes que pour celui des angles de la premiĂšre page.
Pour le 4, c'est compris sur le fait qu'il faut mettre la mise en valeur du cĂŽtĂ© de l'ombre, mais là ça fait comme si le personnage Ă©tait coupĂ© en 2. MĂȘme pour les Ă©lĂ©ments sur la gauche donc du cĂŽtĂ© de l'ombre, le cĂŽtĂ© Ă droite de chaque Ă©lĂ©ment devrait recevoir la lumiĂšre. Donc du cĂŽtĂ© gauche on a certains morceaux qui ne devraient pas ĂȘtre appuyĂ©s. A l'inverse Ă droite rien n'est mis en valeur, alors que le cĂŽtĂ© gauche des Ă©lĂ©ments devrait ĂȘtre dans l'ombre. Dis moi si ce n'est pas compris !
Il y a certes quelques corrections à faire mais c'est du beau travail tout ça :)
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Here are my wizard rabbits. It was really an exercise that allowed me to "see" the concept of line values. Thank you very much.
Voici mes sorciers lapins. C'est vraiment un exercice qui m'a permis de "voir" le principe des valeurs de trait. Merci beaucoup
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Well done, it all seems well understood :) Be careful on the first one (silhouette), you forgot the sleeve holes, it's easy to forget! Otherwise, it's all good :)
Bien joué, le tout me semble bien compris :) Attention sur le premier (silhouette) tu as oublié les trous des manches, on oublie facilement ! Sinon c'est tout bon :)
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Thank you for your corrections ....
Merci pour vos corrections ....
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I corrected on the sheet (I hope it's readable, if not let me know), and I attached a tutorial for the silhouette which was not well understood. Otherwise, for the rest, the exercises are fairly well understood, with a few small things to review but it's generally good work :)
J'ai corrigé sur la feuille (j'espÚre que ça sera bien lisible, sinon dis moi), et je te joins un tuto pour la silhouette qui n'a pas bien été comprise. Sinon pour le reste les exercices sont plutÎt bien compris, avec quelques petits trucs à revoir mais c'est globalement du bon travail :)
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