It's very difficult for me to tell if you've understood the logic of the folds with all the quick hatching you've done over them. I see some good stuff and some not-so-good stuff.
If you could do another sketch just with lines, that would be cool đ
Hello Shasha ^^
C'est trĂšs difficile pour moi de savoir si tu as compris la logique des plis avec toutes les hachures rapides que tu as faites par-dessus. Je devine des trucs biens et des trucs moins biens.
Si tu peux refaire un croquis juste au trait, ce serait cool đ
It looks pretty good, even if it's still very rough. Some details are missing, but those are the kind of things that can be refined in the final version, so you have the basics ^^ If you ever want to further develop a drawing sometime to see what it turns out like, feel free to send it to me đ
It's still very messy ^^ Don't rush, take your time and don't try to hide or fill in with hatching.
I'm showing you what I call a cleaner drawing based on one of the sketches you sent. Considering I am not you, I clean it up differently, and especially there are areas where I am unsure what to choose due to there being so many lines (for example, the bent leg with 3 different possible thicknesses, which one is correct?). I intentionally didn't add hatching so that you can truly see the difference. It's not pretty, but that doesn't matter, what matters is that it's clear and there's no way to interpret it in 36 different ways.
When I look anywhere on your drawing, I shouldn't have areas where I'm unsure what to choose. On your last drawing, the legs (not the feet, really the legs) are almost clean enough. But at the bust level, there are just too many lines everywhere making the area difficult to read. It's a bit like muddying the waters if you will. And that's not troublesome at the sketch stage as long as you understand it ^^ But I am not you, so I don't perceive your drawing in the same way either. And in cleaning it up, a lot of things jump out at me that don't work. Not just the folds, but others as well.
You have a lot of potential, I know you can create really cool things if you want, that's also why I'm intrigued to see what you are capable of when you push a drawing.
So, do you accept the challenge, young padawan? :3
Tu as beaucoup de potentiel, je sais que tu peux faire des trucs vraiment cool si tu veux, c'est pour ça aussi que ça m'intrigue de voir ce que tu es capable de faire quand tu pousses un dessin.
Du coup, relĂšves-tu le challenge, jeune padawan ? :3
Your first exercise is too blurry; I can't clearly see what you've done ^^' If you could resend it, that would be great!
For the second one, there are some mistakes. The pleated skirt has pleats that start from the waistband of the skirt, we agree? This waistband is narrower than the base of the skirt. So, your pleats cannot be "straight". They will necessarily tighten as they go up towards the waistband ^^
For the shirt, the closure does not follow the volume of the body underneath at all. It looks like we're viewing it from the front when that's not the case at all. And for the socks, the same mistake: make sure to follow the volume of the body underneath. And don't forget the wrinkle and tension folds on the shirt. Hereâs a small correction in the image to help you see: D I've put a little diagram to the left of the body volume.
But your choice of outfit is very close to mine, and I find the clothes elegant :)
Hello Lison !
Ton premier exercice est trop flou je ne peux pas voir clairement ce que tu as fait ^^' Si tu peux me le renvoyer ce serait cool !
So the fact that you used color prevents me from seeing any fold. You'll have to start over, I'm afraid ^^' Just on the line this time :3
Hello Clara !
Alors le fait que tu aies mis de la couleur m'empĂȘche de voir le moindre pli. Tu vas devoir recommencer je le crains ^^' Juste Ă la ligne cette fois :3
Overall, it's pretty good, you've identified most of the areas where to place your folds but you often tend to place them on the wrong side. The folds at the joints are always on the side of the crease (they are folded repeatedly so it remains ^^). I also modified the logo on the top of the lady, as you placed it, it is just under her left breast, and not centered on her bust (as was originally intended, I think ^^). For the joggers, don't forget that if it's a bit loose/large around her legs, it will create folds (don't hesitate to check out what it looks like with real joggers in photos or on you when you wear them ^^).
I am attaching a little correction. It's not yet perfect; you'll need to be careful with the clothing folds going forward. But it's not bad đ
Je te joins une petite correction. C'est pas encore acquis, il faudra faire attention pour la suite sur les plis des vĂȘtements. Mais c'est pas mal đ
Hello, still copying exercises because I have no printer. I feel like I'm folding it in the right place but not in the right way.
Bonjouur, alors toujours en train de recopier les exercices par manque d imprimante. J ai l impression de placer les plis au bon endroit mais pas de la bonne facon
In fact, you are quite right. For the man, it's really not bad, I refer you to the correction for him. Just be careful not to make the creases too regular ^^
For the lady, I'm sending you a correction. Yes, you generally place your creases well, you even tend to put a bit too many. For example, on the skirt, if you make horizontal creases like that, it means the fabric is stretched, like for a body-hugging garment. However, it's a pleated skirt you've made, so itâs very unlikely to see this kind of creases on it. Feel free to look at photo references of clothing to see how the creases behave on them ^^ I've made the color modifications to your drawing so I pointed them out with arrows for you to see the changes ^^
But you have a good foundation, I find. Be careful with the chest, in real life, breasts are not ultra molded perfectly in clothing, especially not in loose clothing like a jacket here ^^
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It's very difficult for me to tell if you've understood the logic of the folds with all the quick hatching you've done over them. I see some good stuff and some not-so-good stuff.
If you could do another sketch just with lines, that would be cool đ
C'est trĂšs difficile pour moi de savoir si tu as compris la logique des plis avec toutes les hachures rapides que tu as faites par-dessus. Je devine des trucs biens et des trucs moins biens.
Si tu peux refaire un croquis juste au trait, ce serait cool đ
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It looks pretty good, even if it's still very rough. Some details are missing, but those are the kind of things that can be refined in the final version, so you have the basics ^^ If you ever want to further develop a drawing sometime to see what it turns out like, feel free to send it to me đ
Ăa m'a l'air pas mal, mĂȘme si ça reste trĂšs brouillon. Il manque certains plis, mais c'est le genre de choses qu'on fait apparaitre au propre donc tu as les bases ^^ Si jamais tu veux pousser plus loin un dessin un de ces quatre pour voir ce que ça donne, tu n'hĂ©sites pas Ă m'envoyer đ
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It's still very messy ^^ Don't rush, take your time and don't try to hide or fill in with hatching.
I'm showing you what I call a cleaner drawing based on one of the sketches you sent. Considering I am not you, I clean it up differently, and especially there are areas where I am unsure what to choose due to there being so many lines (for example, the bent leg with 3 different possible thicknesses, which one is correct?). I intentionally didn't add hatching so that you can truly see the difference. It's not pretty, but that doesn't matter, what matters is that it's clear and there's no way to interpret it in 36 different ways.
When I look anywhere on your drawing, I shouldn't have areas where I'm unsure what to choose. On your last drawing, the legs (not the feet, really the legs) are almost clean enough. But at the bust level, there are just too many lines everywhere making the area difficult to read. It's a bit like muddying the waters if you will. And that's not troublesome at the sketch stage as long as you understand it ^^ But I am not you, so I don't perceive your drawing in the same way either. And in cleaning it up, a lot of things jump out at me that don't work. Not just the folds, but others as well.
You have a lot of potential, I know you can create really cool things if you want, that's also why I'm intrigued to see what you are capable of when you push a drawing.
So, do you accept the challenge, young padawan? :3
Ăa reste toujours trĂšs brouillon ^^ Ne te prĂ©cipite pas, prends ton temps et n'essaie pas de cacher ou de remplir avec des hachures.
Je te montre ce que j'appelle un dessin plus propre en me basant sur l'un des croquis que tu as envoyĂ©. Sachant que je ne suis pas toi, et que donc, je mets au propre diffĂ©remment de toi, et surtout il y a des zones oĂč je ne sais pas quoi choisir tellement il y a de traits (exemple, la jambe repliĂ©e Ă 3 Ă©paisseurs diffĂ©rentes possibles, laquelle est la bonne ?). Je n'ai volontairement pas mis de hachures pour que rĂ©ellement tu vois la diffĂ©rence. C'est pas beau, mais on s'en fiche, au moins, c'est clair et y a pas moyen d'interprĂ©ter de 36 façons diffĂ©rentes.
Quand je regarde, oĂč que ce soit sur ton dessin, je ne dois pas avoir de zones oĂč je ne sais pas trop quoi choisir. Sur ton dernier dessin, les jambes (pas les pieds, vraiment les jambes), sont presque suffisamment nettes. Mais au niveau du buste y a beaucoup trop de traits partout ce qui rend la zone difficilement lisible. Ăa noie un peu le poisson si tu veux. Et c'est pas dĂ©rangeant au stade du croquis du moment que tu toi tu t'y retrouves ^^ Mais je ne suis pas toi, donc je ne perçois pas ton dessin de la mĂȘme maniĂšre non plus. Et en mettant au propre, il y a des tas de choses qui me sautent aux yeux et qui ne fonctionnent pas. Au niveau des plis, mais pas que.
Tu as beaucoup de potentiel, je sais que tu peux faire des trucs vraiment cool si tu veux, c'est pour ça aussi que ça m'intrigue de voir ce que tu es capable de faire quand tu pousses un dessin.
Du coup, relĂšves-tu le challenge, jeune padawan ? :3
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Your first exercise is too blurry; I can't clearly see what you've done ^^' If you could resend it, that would be great!
For the second one, there are some mistakes. The pleated skirt has pleats that start from the waistband of the skirt, we agree? This waistband is narrower than the base of the skirt. So, your pleats cannot be "straight". They will necessarily tighten as they go up towards the waistband ^^
For the shirt, the closure does not follow the volume of the body underneath at all. It looks like we're viewing it from the front when that's not the case at all. And for the socks, the same mistake: make sure to follow the volume of the body underneath. And don't forget the wrinkle and tension folds on the shirt. Hereâs a small correction in the image to help you see: D I've put a little diagram to the left of the body volume.
But your choice of outfit is very close to mine, and I find the clothes elegant :)
Ton premier exercice est trop flou je ne peux pas voir clairement ce que tu as fait ^^' Si tu peux me le renvoyer ce serait cool !
Pour le deuxiĂšme, il y a des erreurs. La jupe plissĂ©e a des plis qui partent de la ceinture de la jupe, on est d'accord ? Cette ceinture est plus Ă©troite que le base de la jupe. Donc tes plis ne peuvent pas ĂȘtre "droits". Ils vont forcĂ©ment se resserrer en remontant vers la ceinture ^^
Pour la chemise, la fermeture ne suit pas du tout le volume du corps en dessous. On dirait qu'on la regarde de face alors que pas du tout. Et pour les chaussettes, mĂȘme erreur : suis bien le volume du corps en-dessous. Et n'oublie pas les plis de frictions et de tension sur la chemise. Petite correction en image pour t'aider Ă voir :D Je t'ai mis un petit schĂ©ma Ă gauche du volume du corps.
Mais ton choix de tenue se rapproche beaucoup du mien et les vĂȘtements sont Ă©lĂ©gants je trouve :)
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So the fact that you used color prevents me from seeing any fold. You'll have to start over, I'm afraid ^^' Just on the line this time :3
Alors le fait que tu aies mis de la couleur m'empĂȘche de voir le moindre pli. Tu vas devoir recommencer je le crains ^^' Juste Ă la ligne cette fois :3
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Here is my 1st exercise.
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Merci par avance,
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Overall, it's pretty good, you've identified most of the areas where to place your folds but you often tend to place them on the wrong side. The folds at the joints are always on the side of the crease (they are folded repeatedly so it remains ^^). I also modified the logo on the top of the lady, as you placed it, it is just under her left breast, and not centered on her bust (as was originally intended, I think ^^). For the joggers, don't forget that if it's a bit loose/large around her legs, it will create folds (don't hesitate to check out what it looks like with real joggers in photos or on you when you wear them ^^).
I am attaching a little correction. It's not yet perfect; you'll need to be careful with the clothing folds going forward. But it's not bad đ
Globalement c'est plutĂŽt bien, tu as bien repĂ©rĂ© la plupart des zones oĂč placer tes plis mais tu as souvent tendance Ă les placer du mauvais cĂŽtĂ©. Les plus au niveau des articulations sont toujours du cĂŽtĂ© de la pliure (ils sont pliĂ©s Ă rĂ©pĂ©tition donc ça reste ^^). J'ai Ă©galement modifiĂ© le logo sur le top de la demoiselle, tel que tu l'as placĂ©, il est juste sous son sein gauche, et non centrĂ© sur son buste (comme c'Ă©tait le but premier je pense ^^). Pour le jogging, n'oublie pas que si c'est un peu lĂąche / large autour de ses jambes, alors ça va crĂ©er des plis (n'hĂ©site pas Ă regarder ce que ça donne pour un vrai jogging sur des photos ou sur toi quand tu le portes ^^).
Je te joins une petite correction. C'est pas encore acquis, il faudra faire attention pour la suite sur les plis des vĂȘtements. Mais c'est pas mal đ
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In fact, you are quite right. For the man, it's really not bad, I refer you to the correction for him. Just be careful not to make the creases too regular ^^
For the lady, I'm sending you a correction. Yes, you generally place your creases well, you even tend to put a bit too many. For example, on the skirt, if you make horizontal creases like that, it means the fabric is stretched, like for a body-hugging garment. However, it's a pleated skirt you've made, so itâs very unlikely to see this kind of creases on it. Feel free to look at photo references of clothing to see how the creases behave on them ^^ I've made the color modifications to your drawing so I pointed them out with arrows for you to see the changes ^^
But you have a good foundation, I find. Be careful with the chest, in real life, breasts are not ultra molded perfectly in clothing, especially not in loose clothing like a jacket here ^^
En fait tu es pas mal juste. Sur l'homme c'est vraiment pas mal, je te renvoie à la correction pour lui. Fais simplement attention à ne pas faire des traits trop réguliers pour les plis ^^
Pur la demoiselle, je te joins une correction. Oui, tu places bien tes plis en rĂšgle gĂ©nĂ©rale, tu as mĂȘme tendance Ă en mettre un chouille trop. Sur la jupe par exemple, si tu fais des plis horizontaux comme ça, c'est que le tissu est Ă©tirĂ©, comme pour un vĂȘtement prĂšs du corps. Or, c'est une jupe plissĂ©e que tu as fait, donc trĂšs trĂšs improbable de voir ce genre de plis dessus. N'hĂ©site pas Ă prendre des rĂ©fĂ©rences photos de vĂȘtements pour voir comment les plis se comportent dessus ^^ J'ai fait les modif de la couleur de ton dessin donc j'ai pointĂ© avec des flĂšches pour que tu puisses voir les changements ^^
Mais tu as de bonnes bases je trouve. Attention pour la poitrine, dans la vrai vie, les seins ne sont pas ultra moulĂ©s parfaitement dans les vĂȘtements, encore moins quand il s'agit de vĂȘtements lĂąches comme ici une veste ^^
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