Hey đ
Hereâs one of the characters from my childhood, and from the childhood of many others đ
Putting aside the values, thereâs a problem with the proportions between the two hands; I noticed it too late (drawing is like a math assignment; it requires you to review it from time to time đ...).
Otherwise, I think I overdid it with the eraser, a few light strokes would have been enough.
What about the values?
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Thanks for your feedback, Rakjah đ
I think itâs really cool. But Iâm a little sad that thereâs no shading in its white fur; it has some in its colored fur and in its eyes. The ears are cute too ^^
So, first of all, well done, because the drawing is cool and you seem to be doing a good job with the values. However, they are difficult to read (especially the first one).
The values should help with reading the drawing, or even clarify it. You can apply several small rules to help you:
> Your point of interest will be more contrasted and more detailed than the rest of the image (like when you focus on an element in a photograph)
> The foreground is often darker and more detailed
> The background is subject to atmospheric perspective: its values are influenced by the atmosphere, which fades the values (everything becomes bluish or the color of the sky in general), there is less contrast and therefore fewer details because it is further away.
I did a quick test by applying these principles to your first drawing (I also took the liberty of changing the value of the sky, itâs clearly a sunny day, so we can make the sky bright ^^):
Je t'ai fait un test rapide en appliquant ces principes sur ton premier dessin (je me suis permis de changer la valeur du ciel aussi, il fait visiblement grand soleil donc on peut faire un ciel clair ^^) :
Hello.
Here's an attempt; I'm sorry it's not very sophisticated, I wasn't feeling very inspired. Please feel free to share any feedback you have.
Have a good day.
Donât worry, it doesnât need to be complicated to be good, you know :)
I suggest you read the feedback just above, but what youâve done works. Just be mindful of the style of your hatching; in more complex drawings, it might end up blurring your image instead of enhancing it ^^
Hello Tsubasa ^^
Ne t'inquiĂšte pas, ça n'a pas besoin d'ĂȘtre complexe pour ĂȘtre bien tu sais :)
Je t'enjoins à lire le retour juste au-dessus, mais ce qui est fait fonctionne. Attention au style de tes hachures, sur des dessins plus complexes ça risquerait de brouiller ton image plutÎt que de la mettre en valeur ^^
Your penguin is really cool, especially the head â„
The tree is nice, I recognize it from my tutorial :D
I would say that the main issue is the lack of contrast; you could have darkened the branches and trunk more in relation to the foliage. And you chose to blur everything, which gives the foliage a very soft look (it's hard to achieve, in your defense). But in this case, you could have used a specific type of hatching to create a good foliage effect; let me show you an example:
Hello Nala o/
Ton manchot est trĂšs chouette, en particulier la tĂȘte â„
L'arbre est cool, je reconnais celui de mon tuto :D
Thank you, Rakjah, for your advice. I realized that it wasnât very easy to read. Iâve simplified it a bit this time; I hope it better meets your expectations.
Donât hesitate to create a clear outline around the shapes (Iâm thinking of the distinct shadow area between the character on the left and the one on the right); it will make the whole thing even clearer. ;p
Yes, it definitely works much better now; itâs easier to read. Donât hesitate to use gradients for the landscapes. For example, in your second layer (the one just behind the trees), you could have used a dark gradient, like the one you used at the top, and made it lighter towards the bottom (but subtly, of course). This would have allowed you to create contrast with your very dark foreground and make it stand out more ^^
Your drawing is really nice! Your tiger has a nice style, almost like a Japanese print, which I think is charming :) Regarding the proportions, I think its forehead seems a little short, which gives it a very elongated snout. Donât hesitate to carefully observe your model and take measurements between the different elements, and create some reference points for yourself.
Regarding the values, your drawing seems to have good contrast, but it lacks gradients to describe the volumes and create the shadows. In other words, you need to press harder with the pencil in the darker areas, and press less and less as you get closer to the lighter areas. You did it well on the tip of the snout, for example ^^ Otherwise, the outline of the head is very sharp and dark; it would be good to create a gradient towards a lighter gray towards the inside of the face. You can practice making gradients on another sheet of paper and create value scales if you want! Also, you created an intermediate gray value on the tigerâs face, which is good, but you didnât do it on the body; it would be worth adding some there as well ^^ My advice on gradients mainly applies to realism; many artists create things that work very well with distinct areas of different gray values. In that case, the values should mainly be used judiciously in relation to the shadows, volumes, or planes, depending on the message that the person wants to convey. Sometimes, keeping it simple can be just as effective! Nice work in any case :)
Itâs good to set challenges for yourself; you might surprise yourself, and at worst, if it doesnât turn out exactly as you want, you can learn something from it for next time :)
Here is my exercise in highlighting. I started with one of the sketches.
In retrospect, I donât think it was the best choice: the elements of the set are a bit crowded, and it feels like itâs difficult to distinguish the different planes... but I wanted to try it.
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Thank you in advance for your feedback. đ
Bonjour,
Voici mon exercice de mise en valeurs. Je suis partie d'une des pochades.
I really like your drawing; itâs very pretty, and youâve captured the sense of height well. On the contrary, I think the different planes are clearly distinguishable because youâve understood the principle of atmospheric perspective. The further away something is, the lighter and less contrasted it becomes. Your character on the light-colored path stands out nicely. In terms of values, I would have added a slight gradient to the path, which is currently a bit uniform. Slightly darker at the bottom, slightly lighter at the top, especially since it looks like the inside of the house is illuminated. Otherwise, the one thing that bothers me a bit is the smaller tree just behind the hill; it feels a little like itâs floating in mid-air. Iâve made a few modifications to your drawing based on what I said about the path, and Iâve also added that fir tree in front; I think it looks better. I shortened it a bit because otherwise, it would have been in front of the path, which would have disrupted the flow of the image. Honestly, youâre on the right track; itâs beautiful work.
Oh yes! Thanks for the Christmas tree; I also thought it looked a bit strange. Now itâs much better! And thanks for fixing the path too đ
Thanks for your feedback đ
Ah oui ! Merci pour le sapin, je trouvais ça un peu bizarre moi aussi. Du coup c'est beaucoup mieux! Pour le chemin aussi đ
Merci pour ton retour đ
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14/08/2020
Hereâs one of the characters from my childhood, and from the childhood of many others đ
Putting aside the values, thereâs a problem with the proportions between the two hands; I noticed it too late (drawing is like a math assignment; it requires you to review it from time to time đ...).
Otherwise, I think I overdid it with the eraser, a few light strokes would have been enough.
What about the values?
*orange story âïžđ)
Thanks for your feedback, Rakjah đ
Voici l'un des personnages de mon enfance, et de celle de beaucoup d'autres đ
Valeurs mises Ă part, il y a un problĂšme de proportion entre les 2 mains, je l'ai vu trop tard (le dessin c'est comme un devoir de maths, ça nĂ©cessite de se relire de temps en temps đ ...).
Autrement, je pense avoir trop travaillé les blancs avec la gomme, quelques coups légers auraient suffit.
Quid des valeurs ?
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Merci pour ta correction Rakjah đ
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I think itâs really cool. But Iâm a little sad that thereâs no shading in its white fur; it has some in its colored fur and in its eyes. The ears are cute too ^^
Anyway, itâs really awesome, well done :D
* Would you follow me on social media? :D
Il est super chouette je trouve. Mais je suis triste ne pas voir d'ombrage dans sa fourrure blanche, il en a un peu dans sa fourrure colorée et dans les yeux. Les oreilles sont chouettes aussi ^^
Il est super cool en tout cas, bravo :D
* Oh, me suivrais-tu sur les réseaux sociaux toi ? :D
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Wow, youâre tackling a challenging piece!
So, first of all, well done, because the drawing is cool and you seem to be doing a good job with the values. However, they are difficult to read (especially the first one).
The values should help with reading the drawing, or even clarify it. You can apply several small rules to help you:
> Your point of interest will be more contrasted and more detailed than the rest of the image (like when you focus on an element in a photograph)
> The foreground is often darker and more detailed
> The background is subject to atmospheric perspective: its values are influenced by the atmosphere, which fades the values (everything becomes bluish or the color of the sky in general), there is less contrast and therefore fewer details because it is further away.
I did a quick test by applying these principles to your first drawing (I also took the liberty of changing the value of the sky, itâs clearly a sunny day, so we can make the sky bright ^^):
Ouh tu t'attaque Ă un morceau de taille ! OAO
Alors, déjà bravo, parce que le dessin est cool et que tu sembles bien te débrouiller avec les valeurs. Mais, ils sont difficile à lire (le premier en particulier).
Les valeurs doivent aider la lecture du dessin, voire la clarifier. Tu peux appliquer pleins de petites rĂšgles pour t'y aider :
> ton point d'intĂ©rĂȘt sera + contrastĂ©, + dĂ©taillĂ© que le reste de l'image (comme quand tu fais le point sur un Ă©lĂ©ment en photographie)
> Le premier plan est souvent plus sombre et plus détaillé
> L'arriÚre plan subit la perspective atmosphérique : ses valeurs sont influées par l'atmosphÚre qui affadit les valeurs (tout devient bleuté ou de la couleur du ciel de maniÚre générale), on voit moins de contraste et forcément moins de détails car c'est plus loin.
Je t'ai fait un test rapide en appliquant ces principes sur ton premier dessin (je me suis permis de changer la valeur du ciel aussi, il fait visiblement grand soleil donc on peut faire un ciel clair ^^) :
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19/08/2020
Here's an attempt; I'm sorry it's not very sophisticated, I wasn't feeling very inspired. Please feel free to share any feedback you have.
Have a good day.
Voici un essai, désolée il n'est pas trÚs sophistiqué je n'avais pas d'inspiration. N'hésitez pas si vous avez une remarque.
Bonne journée.
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Donât worry, it doesnât need to be complicated to be good, you know :)
I suggest you read the feedback just above, but what youâve done works. Just be mindful of the style of your hatching; in more complex drawings, it might end up blurring your image instead of enhancing it ^^
Ne t'inquiĂšte pas, ça n'a pas besoin d'ĂȘtre complexe pour ĂȘtre bien tu sais :)
Je t'enjoins à lire le retour juste au-dessus, mais ce qui est fait fonctionne. Attention au style de tes hachures, sur des dessins plus complexes ça risquerait de brouiller ton image plutÎt que de la mettre en valeur ^^
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24/08/2020
Here are my drawings: I started with an easy model with strong contrasts... a penguin! =D
Then, I continued with an oak tree, following the tutorial on the blog. For the values, I relied a bit on my intuition...
Thank you in advance for your advice!
Voici mes dessins: j'ai commencé par un modÚle facile avec de forts contrastes... le manchot ! =D
Puis, j'ai continuĂ© avec un chĂȘne, en suivant le tuto sur le blog. Pour les valeurs, j'y suis allĂ©e un peu au feeling...
Merci d'avance pour vos conseils!
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Your penguin is really cool, especially the head â„
The tree is nice, I recognize it from my tutorial :D
I would say that the main issue is the lack of contrast; you could have darkened the branches and trunk more in relation to the foliage. And you chose to blur everything, which gives the foliage a very soft look (it's hard to achieve, in your defense). But in this case, you could have used a specific type of hatching to create a good foliage effect; let me show you an example:
Ton manchot est trĂšs chouette, en particulier la tĂȘte â„
L'arbre est cool, je reconnais celui de mon tuto :D
Je dirais que ce qui pĂȘche c'est que ça manque de contraste, tu aurais pu foncer davantage les branches et le tronc par rapport au feuillage. Et tu as choisi de tout estomper, ce qui donne un rendu trĂšs mou au feuillage (c'est difficile Ă rendre pour ta dĂ©fense). Mais pour le coup, tu aurais pu utiliser un type de hachures bien spĂ©cifiques pour donner un effet de feuillage qui marche bien, je te montre un exemple :
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And most importantly, thank you for taking the time to respond to us. đ
Et surtout, merci de prendre le temps de nous rĂ©pondre. đ
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Donât hesitate to create a clear outline around the shapes (Iâm thinking of the distinct shadow area between the character on the left and the one on the right); it will make the whole thing even clearer. ;p
N'hésite pas à faire une démarcation nette sur le contour de tes formes (je pense à la zone d'ombre nette entre le perso de gauche et celui de droite) ça rendra le tout encore plus clair ;p
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30/08/2020
Here is a new drawing. I like landscapes, and I hope it has enough nuance.
Have a good day.
Susi
Voici un nouveau dessin. J'aime les paysages et j'espÚre, que c'est assez nuancé.
Bonne journée
Susi
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Yes, it definitely works much better now; itâs easier to read. Donât hesitate to use gradients for the landscapes. For example, in your second layer (the one just behind the trees), you could have used a dark gradient, like the one you used at the top, and made it lighter towards the bottom (but subtly, of course). This would have allowed you to create contrast with your very dark foreground and make it stand out more ^^
Aside from that, I approve đ
Oui, ça marche beaucoup mieux en effet, ça se lit mieux. N'hésite pas pour les paysages à utiliser des dégradés. Ton second plan par exemple, (celui juste derriÚre les arbres), tu aurais pu faire un dégradé sombre comme tu as fait en haut, et qui devient plus clair vers le bas (de maniÚre légÚre bien sûr), ça t'aurait permis de créer du contraste avec ton premier plan trÚs sombre et de le faire ressortir davantage ^^
A part ça, je valide đ
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Itâs quite complicated đ, but if youâre meticulous, you can achieve something!
I think it has its merits! But overall, Iâm satisfied and I enjoyed doing it!
Thank you.
c'est super compliquĂ© đ mais en Ă©tant minutieux on arrive Ă quelque chose !
Je pense qu'il Ă a dire ! mais dans l'ensemble je suis satisfait et j'y ai pris du plaisir !
Merci
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Your drawing is really nice! Your tiger has a nice style, almost like a Japanese print, which I think is charming :) Regarding the proportions, I think its forehead seems a little short, which gives it a very elongated snout. Donât hesitate to carefully observe your model and take measurements between the different elements, and create some reference points for yourself.
Regarding the values, your drawing seems to have good contrast, but it lacks gradients to describe the volumes and create the shadows. In other words, you need to press harder with the pencil in the darker areas, and press less and less as you get closer to the lighter areas. You did it well on the tip of the snout, for example ^^ Otherwise, the outline of the head is very sharp and dark; it would be good to create a gradient towards a lighter gray towards the inside of the face. You can practice making gradients on another sheet of paper and create value scales if you want! Also, you created an intermediate gray value on the tigerâs face, which is good, but you didnât do it on the body; it would be worth adding some there as well ^^ My advice on gradients mainly applies to realism; many artists create things that work very well with distinct areas of different gray values. In that case, the values should mainly be used judiciously in relation to the shadows, volumes, or planes, depending on the message that the person wants to convey. Sometimes, keeping it simple can be just as effective! Nice work in any case :)
TrÚs sympa ton dessin ! Ton tigre a un petit style façon estampe japonaise qui a son charme je trouve :) Concernant les proportions, son front me semble un peu court, ce qui lui donne un effet de museau trÚs allongé. N'hésite pas à bien observer ton modÚle et prendre des mesures entre les différents éléments et te créer des repÚres.
Concernant les valeurs, ton dessin me semble bien contrastĂ©, mais il manque de dĂ©gradĂ©s pour dĂ©crire les volumes et faire les ombres, c'est Ă dire bien appuyer sur le crayon pour les zones plus sombres, et appuyer de moins en moins quand on se rapproche des zones plus claires. Tu l'as bien fait sur le bout du museau par exemple ^^ Sinon le contour de la tĂȘte est trĂšs net et foncĂ©, ça mĂ©riterait de se dĂ©grader vers un gris plus clair vers l'intĂ©rieur du visage. Tu peux t'entraĂźner Ă faire des dĂ©gradĂ©s sur une autre feuille et faire des Ă©chelles de valeurs avec si tu veux ! Aussi, tu as fait une valeur de gris intermĂ©diaire sur le visage du tigre, ce qui est bien, mais tu n'en as pas mis sur le corps, ça vaudrait le coup d'en ajouter aussi lĂ ^^ Mes conseils sur les dĂ©gradĂ©s valent surtout pour du rĂ©alisme, beaucoup d'artistes font des choses qui fonctionnent trĂšs bien avec des zones nettes de diffĂ©rentes valeurs de gris. A ce moment lĂ les valeurs doivent surtout ĂȘtre utilisĂ©es judicieusement par rapport aux ombres, volumes ou plans, selon le message que la personne veut faire passer. Des fois faire simple peut vĂ©hiculer tout autant ! Joli travail en tous cas :)
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I took on this challenge without even being sure I could succeed, and in the end, Iâm quite happy with the result!
Iâm going to try to improve it by following your advice. Thanks in any case.
Je me suis lancĂ© ce dĂ©fis sans mĂȘme ĂȘtre sĂ»r que je puisse le relever et au final Je suis plutĂŽt content de ma rĂ©alisation !
Je vais essayer de lâamĂ©liorer en suivant vos conseils ! Merci en tout cas
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11/09/2020
Itâs good to set challenges for yourself; you might surprise yourself, and at worst, if it doesnât turn out exactly as you want, you can learn something from it for next time :)
C'est bien de se lancer des défis, on peut se surprendre, et au pire si ce n'est pas vraiment comme on veut on peut en tirer quelque chose pour la prochaine fois :)
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13/09/2020
Here is my exercise in highlighting. I started with one of the sketches.
In retrospect, I donât think it was the best choice: the elements of the set are a bit crowded, and it feels like itâs difficult to distinguish the different planes... but I wanted to try it.
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Thank you in advance for your feedback. đ
Voici mon exercice de mise en valeurs. Je suis partie d'une des pochades.
AprÚs coup j'ai l'impression que ce n'était pas vraiment un choix judicieux : les éléments du décor sont un peu ramassés les uns sur les autres du coup j'ai l'impression que c'est compliqué de distinguer les plans... mais j'avais envie d'essayer.
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14/09/2020
I really like your drawing; itâs very pretty, and youâve captured the sense of height well. On the contrary, I think the different planes are clearly distinguishable because youâve understood the principle of atmospheric perspective. The further away something is, the lighter and less contrasted it becomes. Your character on the light-colored path stands out nicely. In terms of values, I would have added a slight gradient to the path, which is currently a bit uniform. Slightly darker at the bottom, slightly lighter at the top, especially since it looks like the inside of the house is illuminated. Otherwise, the one thing that bothers me a bit is the smaller tree just behind the hill; it feels a little like itâs floating in mid-air. Iâve made a few modifications to your drawing based on what I said about the path, and Iâve also added that fir tree in front; I think it looks better. I shortened it a bit because otherwise, it would have been in front of the path, which would have disrupted the flow of the image. Honestly, youâre on the right track; itâs beautiful work.
J'aime beaucoup ton dessin, trĂšs joli et on a bien la sensation de hauteur :) Je trouve au contraire qu'on distingue bien les plans car tu as bien compris le principe de la perspective atmosphĂ©rique, plus on s'Ă©loigne plus c'est clair et peu contrastĂ©. Ton personnage sur le chemin clair ressort bien. Au niveau des valeurs j'aurais fait un lĂ©ger dĂ©gradĂ© sur le chemin qui est un peu monobloc. LĂ©gĂšrement plus sombre en bas, lĂ©gĂšrement plus lair en haut, surtout qu'on dirait que l'intĂ©rieur de la maison est illuminĂ©. Sinon le truc qui me gĂȘne un peu c'est le plus petit arbre juste derriĂšre la coline, on a un peu l'impression qu'il flotte dans le vide je trouve. J'ai un peu modifiĂ© ton dessin avec ce que j'ai dit pour le chemin, mais j'ai aussi mis ce sapin devant, je trouve que ça rend mieux. Je l'ai raccourci un peu car sinon il serait passĂ© devant le chemin, ce qui aurait coupĂ© la fluiditĂ© de la lecture de l'image. Franchement tu es sur la bonne voie, c'est du beau travail :)
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Thanks for your feedback đ
Merci pour ton retour đ
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