I don't know this cross-hatching technique either, but it apparently allows for a stylized renderingđ. I will start by drawing an apple using this method, easier đ.
These two chapters on highlighting made me think of Enki Bilal, who primarily used hatching early in his career and then switched (it seems to me) to more classic highlighting. Am I right?
Personally, I also sometimes use values to represent the texture of the object, in addition to its shape.
Crosshatching gives a somewhat rough appearance to objects, I find, and for some materials I will orient my hatches differently: for wood, lines that follow the grain; for a furry look, fur in all directions; for sand, very small lines, or even dots, etc.
On the other hand, very smooth materials like polished steel, shiny plastic, glass, etc., I find that it works better with very distinct values, solid fills. Therefore, I do not prohibit myself from using several types of value representation in a single image.
In order to apply the lessons on enhancement and values with hatching, I worked from the tutorial "how to draw a deer" which served as my work base and... the result surprises me too!!! You also realize that once you start hatching an area, it's hard to stop, as you want to perfect it so much!!! Very interesting course, thanks to the entire Dessindigo team.
Very good course as well! I am currently rereading Hugo Pratt's album "The Celts" and its hero Corto Maltese, and so apart from the story, the characters, etc., I became interested in the cross-hatching and I really noticed his technique that I hadn't even recognized before! This perspective is also what the training teaches us, I am delighted about that, thank you!
Here is a little drawing I did to test cross-hatching... I wanted to try the volume effect Ă la Moebius, but I'm not convinced; I feel like I missed something... Obviously, I imagine practice will help, but I would still like some advice! ;)
So personally, I recommend avoiding crossing the hatching lines perpendicularly. It often breaks the sense of volume, I find (even if Moebius does it sometimes, but not without good reason).
Then you have several issues. Observing Moebius' work, one can notice several things:
> The hatching is used to indicate volume / light only
> His hatching generally consists of a single layer, sometimes two but rarely more.
> The hatching lines ALWAYS follow the volume of the object.
You used hatching to indicate the color of your subject and not the light. So it couldn't work.
This is why you had to use multiple layers of hatching to achieve the desired level of gray, which is not characteristic of Moebius.
And finally, your hatching lines do not necessarily follow the volume of your object. Again, it doesn't match ^^
Itâs an observation flaw in this case. Of course, my comments are intended for doing hatching work similar to that of Moebius, I should specify ^^
The hatching, this course allowed me to discover absolutely extraordinary comic strip drawings that I was completely unaware of (I think people of my generation know very little about this art) too bad it's magnificent.
So I tried with the rose suggested by Liam. My dream was to give, by the sense of hatching the sense of the petals, I am not entirely satisfied, I admit that I prefer the previous method with the shades of gray. But it is interesting to try.
Thank you for the explanations and for the feedback.
I'm glad the course allows us to explore some references :-)
I think this rose isn't so bad. And don't be so hard on yourself: what you've undertaken to do with it is far from simple: it requires a lot of finesse and experience.
Personally, my approach to shading depends a bit on my mood: sometimes it's gradients, sometimes hatching, and sometimes a mix of both. There are no rules about it.
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I am not very familiar with his early work, I am more familiar with his pastel/photobash work. I will check it out! đ
Je connais assez peu ses travaux du dĂ©but, je suis plus familier avec son travail au pastel/photobash. J'irai regarder ça ! đ
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Crosshatching gives a somewhat rough appearance to objects, I find, and for some materials I will orient my hatches differently: for wood, lines that follow the grain; for a furry look, fur in all directions; for sand, very small lines, or even dots, etc.
On the other hand, very smooth materials like polished steel, shiny plastic, glass, etc., I find that it works better with very distinct values, solid fills. Therefore, I do not prohibit myself from using several types of value representation in a single image.
Les hachures donnent un aspect un peu rugueux aux objets, je trouve, et pour certains matériaux je vais orienter mes hachures différemment : pour le bois des lignes qui suivent les nervures, pour l'aspect poilu des poils dans tous les sens, pour le sable des trÚs petits traits, voire des points, etc.
D'un autre cĂŽtĂ©, les matĂ©riaux trĂšs lisses comme l'acier poli, le plastique brillant, le verre, etc, je trouve que ça marche mieux avec des valeurs trĂšs marquĂ©es, des aplats. Je ne m'interdis pas, du coup, d'utiliser plusieurs types de reprĂ©sentation de valeurs sur une seule et mĂȘme image.
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I agree with you, all this works very well!
Je suis d'accord avec toi, tout ça fonctionne trÚs bien !
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In order to apply the lessons on enhancement and values with hatching, I worked from the tutorial "how to draw a deer" which served as my work base and... the result surprises me too!!! You also realize that once you start hatching an area, it's hard to stop, as you want to perfect it so much!!! Very interesting course, thanks to the entire Dessindigo team.
Christelle
Afin de pouvoir appliquer les cours sur la mise en valeur et les valeurs avec les hachures, j'ai travaillĂ© Ă partir du tuto "comment dessiner un cerf" qui m'a servi de base de travail et . . . le rĂ©sultat me surprend moi mĂȘme !!! Tu t'aperçois aussi que quand tu commences Ă mettre une hachure sur une zone, tu as du mal Ă t'arrĂȘter, tellement tu veux fignoler Ă la perfection!!! Cours trĂšs intĂ©ressant, merci Ă toute l'Ă©quipe de Dessindigo.
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I'm delighted to see that you were able to try it on the deer and that you liked the result, that's all that matters :3
Je suis ravi de voir que tu as pu tester ça sur le cerf et que le résultat t'ait plu, c'est tout ce qui compte :3
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That's a good thing, it means that you're already not seeing the drawing in the same way :-)
C'est une bonne chose, cela veut dire que tu ne vois dĂ©jĂ plus le dessin de la mĂȘme façon :-)
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Here is a little drawing I did to test cross-hatching... I wanted to try the volume effect Ă la Moebius, but I'm not convinced; I feel like I missed something... Obviously, I imagine practice will help, but I would still like some advice! ;)
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Lucie
Voici un petit dessin que j'ai fait pour tester les hachures... j'ai voulu tenter l'effet de volume Ă la Moebius mais je ne suis pas convaincue, j'ai l'impression qu'un truc m'a Ă©chappĂ©... Evidemment j'imagine que la pratique aidera mais je voudrais bien quelques conseils quand mĂȘme ! ;)
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Lucie
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Then you have several issues. Observing Moebius' work, one can notice several things:
> The hatching is used to indicate volume / light only
> His hatching generally consists of a single layer, sometimes two but rarely more.
> The hatching lines ALWAYS follow the volume of the object.
You used hatching to indicate the color of your subject and not the light. So it couldn't work.
This is why you had to use multiple layers of hatching to achieve the desired level of gray, which is not characteristic of Moebius.
And finally, your hatching lines do not necessarily follow the volume of your object. Again, it doesn't match ^^
Itâs an observation flaw in this case. Of course, my comments are intended for doing hatching work similar to that of Moebius, I should specify ^^
Ensuite tu as plusieurs soucis. Quand on observe le travail de Moebius, on constate plusieurs choses :
> Les hachures lui servent Ă donner des indications de volume / lumiĂšre uniquement
> Ses hachures sont composées en rÚgle générale d'une seule couche, parfois deux mais rarement davantage.
> Les hachures suivent TOUJOURS le volume de l'objet.
Toi tu as utilisé les hachures pour indiquer la couleur de ton sujet et non la lumiÚre. Donc ça ne pouvait pas marcher.
Ce qui fait que tu as dû utiliser plusieurs couches de hachures pour arriver au niveau de gris désiré, ce n'est pas caractéristique de Moebius.
Et enfin, tes hachures ne suivent pas forcément le volume de ton objet. Là encore, ça ne colle pas ^^
C'est un défaut d'observation en l'occurrence. Bien sûr mes remarques valent pour ce qui est de faire un travail de hachures similaire à celui de Moebius je précise ^^
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So I tried with the rose suggested by Liam. My dream was to give, by the sense of hatching the sense of the petals, I am not entirely satisfied, I admit that I prefer the previous method with the shades of gray. But it is interesting to try.
Thank you for the explanations and for the feedback.
Alors jâai essayĂ© avec la rose proposĂ©e par Liam. Mon rĂȘve Ă©tait de donner, par le sens des hachures le sens des pĂ©tales, je ne suis pas entiĂšrement satisfaite, jâavoue que je prĂ©fĂšre la mĂ©thode prĂ©cĂ©dente avec les dĂ©gradĂ©s de gris. Mais il est intĂ©ressant dâessayer.
Merci pour les explications et pour le retour
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I'm glad the course allows us to explore some references :-)
I think this rose isn't so bad. And don't be so hard on yourself: what you've undertaken to do with it is far from simple: it requires a lot of finesse and experience.
Personally, my approach to shading depends a bit on my mood: sometimes it's gradients, sometimes hatching, and sometimes a mix of both. There are no rules about it.
Give it a try on your next drawing to see! đ
Je suis content que le cours permette de faire découvrir quelques références :-)
Je trouve qu'elle n'est pas si mal, cette rose. Et ne sois pas si dure avec toi-mĂȘme : ce que tu as entrepris de faire avec est trĂšs loi d'ĂȘtre simple : cela demande beaucoup de doigtĂ© et d'expĂ©rience.
Personnellement, le travail des valeurs dépend un peu de mon humeur : tantÎt en dégradés, tantÎt en hachures, et parfois un mélange des deux. Il n'y a aucune rÚgle là -dessus.
Fais un essai, sur un prochain dessin, pour voir ! đ
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