I didnât initially post a âsolutionâ because I was afraid that most people would just glance at it and think they didnât need to practice, since they already had an idea of the result.
The reason for this is that the most important thing to understand is that the process is what matters, not the final result, as I often mention in the lessons.
That being said, I will post one or two examples of this kind of work to clearly show how I do this research, in a calm environment, away from the cameras ;-)
In the meantime, I strongly encourage you to show me your work so that I can give you some feedback, if youâre interested!
Well, there you have it!!! My sketches look like something a 3-year-old would draw. Of course, I erased and crumpled my paper, and of course, my sketch has lots of lines...!!! Hmm!!! Back to work before the next lesson!!! I'm going to review this lesson tirelessly (because there's a lot of information to absorb!!!) until I understand it and my sketches are at least somewhat presentable, because right now, Peugeot (if it's even one!) isn't going to hire me to design their next car, haha! Many thanks for this very challenging but highly informative lesson!
Hi Christelle, you should normally be able to upload your images here, but thereâs a small bug at the moment. I think it will be fixed soon. In the meantime, you can share your images in the forum if you want. Have a good evening.
But donât worry, itâs much less strict than technical drawing. :-p The goal here isnât to create a perfect rendering, but rather to develop a process that will help you better understand your subject.
Try to think of it as taking notes: you simply want to extract useful information, thatâs all!
I have to admit that Iâm feeling a bit frustrated⊠^^ I just finished carefully going through your course on analyzing and observing objects, but I realize after many attempts that Iâm unable to properly separate the volumes⊠and itâs even worse in perspective. How do you do it? Do you try to draw them layer by layer?
For example, would it be possible to show us how you âbroke downâ the car in the course material? Itâs really intriguing!
In any case, thank you so much for these courses, which are simply amazing!
I understand what you mean by âdrawing by planes,â but thatâs not exactly how I approach it. In short, hereâs how I do it (using a side view as an example):
- I look at the object and ask myself, âWhat is its largest volume?â For the car, I think it would be the cabin.
- What is the shape of that volume? I would say a large rectangle, which I then draw.
- What is its second largest volume?
- And so on.
And I always keep in mind that the most important thing isnât necessarily the result, but rather the process that will help me better understand how the object is constructed, what its proportions are, etc.
If youâre really struggling with this, know that it wonât prevent you from moving on to the next lessons :-) So thereâs no need to get discouraged!
And if it helps, Iâm currently working on creating very detailed corrections for each of the exercises in the course.
In the meantime, feel free to post your work on the forum if youâd like me to take a look! That way, I can see exactly how I can help you until the mega-corrections are ready! đ
After reviewing the lesson, I tried to restructure the objects, to visualize the volumes, and to separate them. Itâs starting to take shape, and I can see things a little more clearly, but itâs still quite basic!!! We can now better discern what it might be!!! I struggled to define the volumes of the car; the fenders and wheels gave me some trouble, but Iâm not giving up because I think Iâve understood the fundamentals of this lesson. Iâm going to try to move on to the next one; if I get stuck, Iâll go back to this one.
Thanks again; even though itâs just a basic sketch, itâs great because Iâm starting to see the objects around me differently, Iâm starting to analyze them!
P.S.: The car sketch is still bothering me. I did my first sketch with the volumes and, by placing it as a template (thanks for that tip), I can now see lots of parallels, which makes my drawing more realistic! Awesome!
You know, most of the time when we realize we canât draw what we want, we blame our hand and say, âI canât draw well.â But in reality, it comes from the eye. The changes youâre experiencing are due to the fact that youâre now looking, thinking, and reflecting in a slightly different way, and these analytical skills will be reflected in your drawing.
So keep going! Your hand will naturally follow the rhythm as you gain more experience đ
Which databases are you referring to? Depending on what you mean, it's possible that I'm not familiar with them (in which case, I'd be very interested to learn more!). đ
Hello,
Well, here I am, ready to get started... I have a feeling it's going to take me quite a while before I can move on to the next lesson đ
But I'm really looking forward to putting all your excellent explanations into practice!!! đ
Thanks, Greg, your lessons are very motivating đ
Jacqueline
For these first exercises, should we just sketch the basic shapes so that we can vaguely identify what object is being depicted, or should we also include the details?
Iâm sending you my first two pieces đ
Your two drawings are very neat and clear, which is great! As for the details, it all depends on what you feel capable of doing! But there are no limits.
That said, before trying something more complex, I suggest you try the following exercise: try to separate each of the object's components (a bit like in an Ikea furniture assembly diagram â imagine you are creating the assembly instructions!).
The goal isn't to create something beautiful, but to train your eye to instinctively break down the shapes and to see things in a more analytical way. :-)
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Would it be possible for you to post your analysis sketches for the course materials so that I can compare my work with that of a professional?
Thank you in advance, and best regards,
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Serait-il possible de poster tes croquis d'analyze pour les objets du support de cours afin de comparer mon travail avec celui d'un professionel?
Merci d'avance et cordiales salutations,
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I didnât initially post a âsolutionâ because I was afraid that most people would just glance at it and think they didnât need to practice, since they already had an idea of the result.
The reason for this is that the most important thing to understand is that the process is what matters, not the final result, as I often mention in the lessons.
That being said, I will post one or two examples of this kind of work to clearly show how I do this research, in a calm environment, away from the cameras ;-)
In the meantime, I strongly encourage you to show me your work so that I can give you some feedback, if youâre interested!
Good luck and see you soon,
Greg
Je n'ai pas postĂ© de "solution" dans un premier temps car je craignais que la plupart des gens se contentent d'y jeter un Ćil en se disant qu'ils n'avaient pas besoin de pratiquer lĂ dessus, dans la mesure oĂč ils avaient dĂ©jĂ un aperçu du rĂ©sultat.
La raison à cela c'est que le plus important à comprendre reste le fait que c'est la démarche qui compte et non le rendu, comme je le mentionne souvent dans les cours.
Ceci étant dit, je posterai une ou deux planches de ce genre de travail afin de montrer clairement comment je fais ces recherches, au calme, loin des caméras ;-)
En attendant, je t'encourage vivement Ă me montrer ton boulot afin que je puisse te faire un retour dessus, si le cĆur t'en dit !
Bon courage et Ă bientĂŽt,
Greg
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Donât let it intimidate you; youâll see that it happens faster than you think. :-)
Ne te laisse pas impressionner, tu verras ça vient plus vite qu'on ne le pense. :-)
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I wasnât very good back then⊠Well, thereâs nothing left to do but keep going, as they say.
Iâm not ready to watch the next video.
Thanks for the course materials!
J'étais déjà pas douée à l'époque....Bon y a plus qu'a comme dirai l'autre.
Je suis pas prĂȘte Ă regarder la vidĂ©o suivante.
Merci pour le support de cours!
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Try to think of it as taking notes: you simply want to extract useful information, thatâs all!
If itâs ugly, who cares? No pressure :-)
Good luck!
Essaie de voir ça comme une prise de note : tu veux simplement extraire des informations utile, c'est tout !
Si c'est moche, on s'en fiche. Pas de pression :-)
courage !
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I have to admit that Iâm feeling a bit frustrated⊠^^ I just finished carefully going through your course on analyzing and observing objects, but I realize after many attempts that Iâm unable to properly separate the volumes⊠and itâs even worse in perspective. How do you do it? Do you try to draw them layer by layer?
For example, would it be possible to show us how you âbroke downâ the car in the course material? Itâs really intriguing!
In any case, thank you so much for these courses, which are simply amazing!
Je dois avouer que je suis particuliÚrement dépitée.. ^^ je viens de suivre attentivement ton cours sur l'analyse et l'observation des objets, mais je me rends compte aprÚs une multitude d'essais que je suis incapable de séparer les volumes convenablement.. et c'est encore pire en perspective. Comment t'y prends tu ? Essaie tu de les dessiner par plans ?
Pour exemple, serait-il possible de nous montrer comment tu as "découpé" la voiture dans le support de cours ? Ca m'intrigue vraiment !
En tout cas, mille mercis pour ces cours qui sont tout simplement géniaux !
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I understand what you mean by âdrawing by planes,â but thatâs not exactly how I approach it. In short, hereâs how I do it (using a side view as an example):
- I look at the object and ask myself, âWhat is its largest volume?â For the car, I think it would be the cabin.
- What is the shape of that volume? I would say a large rectangle, which I then draw.
- What is its second largest volume?
- And so on.
And I always keep in mind that the most important thing isnât necessarily the result, but rather the process that will help me better understand how the object is constructed, what its proportions are, etc.
If youâre really struggling with this, know that it wonât prevent you from moving on to the next lessons :-) So thereâs no need to get discouraged!
And if it helps, Iâm currently working on creating very detailed corrections for each of the exercises in the course.
In the meantime, feel free to post your work on the forum if youâd like me to take a look! That way, I can see exactly how I can help you until the mega-corrections are ready! đ
Good luck, CĂ©line, and see you soon!
Je comprends ce que tu veux dire par dessiner par plans, mais ce n'est pas tout à fait la façon dont je m'y prends. En résumé, voilà comment je procÚde (en prenant l'exemple d'une vue de profil) :
- Je regarde l'objet et je me pose la question : "quel est son plus gros volume ?" Pour la voiture, ce sera l'habitacle je pense.
- Quelle est la forme de ce volume ? Je dirais un gros rectangle, que je dessine.
- Quel est son deuxiĂšme plus gros volume ?
- Et ainsi de suite.
Et toujours en gardant bien à l'esprit que l'important ce n'est pas tellement le résultat, mais bien la démarche qui va me permettre de mieux comprendre comme l'objet est construit, quelles sont ses proportions, etc.
SI jamais tu galĂšres vraiment avec ça, sache que cela ne t'empĂȘchera pas de passer aux cours suivants :-) Donc pas besoin d'ĂȘtre dĂ©pitĂ©e !
Et si cela peut te rassurer, je suis en train de concocter des corrections trÚs détaillées pour chacun des exercices de la formation.
En attendant, n'hĂ©site pas Ă poster ton travail sur le forum si jamais tu veux que j'y jette un oeil ! Comme ça je pourrai voir prĂ©cisĂ©ment comment je peux t'aider le temps que les mĂ©ga-corrections soient prĂȘtes ! đ
Bon courage CĂ©line, et Ă bientĂŽt !
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Thanks again; even though itâs just a basic sketch, itâs great because Iâm starting to see the objects around me differently, Iâm starting to analyze them!
P.S.: The car sketch is still bothering me. I did my first sketch with the volumes and, by placing it as a template (thanks for that tip), I can now see lots of parallels, which makes my drawing more realistic! Awesome!
Merci encore, mĂȘme si c'est du croquis basique, cela m'Ă©clate car je commence Ă voir les objets qui m'entourent diffĂ©remment, je commence Ă les dĂ©cortiquer!
P.S: le croquis de la voiture, me turlupine. . . J'ai pris mon 1er croquis avec les volumes et en le placant en decalc ( merci pour ce conseil), maintenant le vois plein de paralleles qui du coup rendent mon dessin plus realiste! Trop cool!
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Great, youâre making progress đ
You know, most of the time when we realize we canât draw what we want, we blame our hand and say, âI canât draw well.â But in reality, it comes from the eye. The changes youâre experiencing are due to the fact that youâre now looking, thinking, and reflecting in a slightly different way, and these analytical skills will be reflected in your drawing.
So keep going! Your hand will naturally follow the rhythm as you gain more experience đ
Keep it up, and see you soon!
Greg
Cool, tu progresses đ
Tu sais, la plupart du temps lorsque l'on se rend compte que l'on n'arrive pas Ă dessiner ce que l'on veut on accuse la main et on se dit : "Je ne dessine pas bien." Mais en rĂ©alitĂ© cela vient de lâĆil. Les changements que tu sens viennent du fait que tu regardes, que tu penses et que tu rĂ©flĂ©chis un peu diffĂ©remment Ă prĂ©sent, et ces capacitĂ©s d'analyse vont se ressentir dans le trait.
Donc continue sur ta lancĂ©e ! La main suivra le rythme naturellement au fur et Ă mesure que tu gagneras en expĂ©rience đ
Courage et Ă bientĂŽt !
Greg
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Which databases are you referring to? Depending on what you mean, it's possible that I'm not familiar with them (in which case, I'd be very interested to learn more!). đ
De quelles bases de donnĂ©es est-ce que tu parles ? Parce que suivant ta rĂ©fĂ©rence, il est possible que je ne connaisse pas (auquel cas cela m'intĂ©resse vivement !) đ
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Well, here I am, ready to get started... I have a feeling it's going to take me quite a while before I can move on to the next lesson đ
But I'm really looking forward to putting all your excellent explanations into practice!!! đ
Thanks, Greg, your lessons are very motivating đ
Jacqueline
Bon ben... me voilĂ prĂȘte pour dĂ©buter... Je sens que ça va me prendre un sacrĂ© moment avant de pouvoir passer au cours suivant đ
Mais qu'Est-ce que je me rĂ©jouis de mettre en pratique toutes tes bonnes explications !!!đ
Merci Greg, tes cours sont trĂšs motivants đ
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For these first exercises, should we just sketch the basic shapes so that we can vaguely identify what object is being depicted, or should we also include the details?
Iâm sending you my first two pieces đ
Pour ces premiers exercices, on dessine juste les volumes de façon à reconnaßtre vaguement quel objet est représenté ou on entre aussi dans les détails ?
Je t'envoie mes 2 premiĂšres Ćuvres đ
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Your two drawings are very neat and clear, which is great! As for the details, it all depends on what you feel capable of doing! But there are no limits.
That said, before trying something more complex, I suggest you try the following exercise: try to separate each of the object's components (a bit like in an Ikea furniture assembly diagram â imagine you are creating the assembly instructions!).
The goal isn't to create something beautiful, but to train your eye to instinctively break down the shapes and to see things in a more analytical way. :-)
Let me know if it works! đ
Good luck, and talk to you soon!
Tes deux dessins sont trÚs propres et trÚs clairs, c'est bien ! Pour les détails, tout dépend de ce que tu te sens capable de faire ! Mais il n'y a aucune limite.
Ceci dit, avant d'aller chercher plus loin je te suggÚre de tenter l'exercice suivant : essaie de séparer chacun des composants de l'objet (un peu comme sur un plan de meuble Ikéa - imagine que tu fais la notice de montage !
Le but n'est pas de faire quelque chose de joli, mais d'entraĂźner ton Ćil Ă dĂ©composer instinctivement les volumes et Ă voir de façon plus analytique. :-)
Dis-moi si ça marche ! đ
Bon courage et Ă bientĂŽt !